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peterpan
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Status: New idea

I use firefox for many websites having to do with finances, and all of them insist on two factor authorization anytime I log in from a different device or browser. That's good for security, but when the browser updates, even by a minor version, this triggers the need for extra login security on most of those websites. It's expected, but when the browser offers to update multiple times/week, it gets sufficiently annoying that I end up dismissing the frequent update reminders.  May I suggest you have a tiered level of updates? Maybe a setting that would allow me to only see reminders for major updates, like security fixes or major feature additions. Thanks for considering, and by the way thanks for making it easier to offer a suggestion!

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HonestlyPut
New member

My updates are daily, furthermore as I thought it rather odd that anything requiring updating that regularly (other than using it as an excuse to data collect) is not necessary or not what we are told it is to be. I changed my setting so that it can't update without my permission, hoping to observe that it would tell me once in a while. It happens between 4-8 times a day. Since you are not discussing the normal reason for an update, and when we look its to sort out a BUG? from the last 5 minutes ago update, are you writing 'updates', so frequently that pointless mistakes are being made, or that it's the best rollox you can come up with rather than we are collecting what sites you visited, when, how and if to whomever wants to purchase it. Do users of firefox that don't use their internet as frequently gets harrassed as often, as I can ignore these updates, because of my settings for weeks yet the update it says I needs number does not increase............ You'd assume with such frequency it would, so why if left doesn't it? If these updates are sooooooooooooo necessary, which they clearly aren't. Go back to how you used to do things and spend less time, alot less, coming across like every other dodgey corporation blowing smoke up our bums for dishonourable reasons, and expecting everyone to be OK about it, why would they be? Value the loyalty or lose it. Tolerance of unnecessary behaviour and questioned conduct, is not inexhaustible, neither should you expect it to be.

sfink
Employee
Employee

I notice that there are a few different things being described in this idea. Some people are objecting to several updates a year. This is expected behavior, so these people are arguing that it shouldn't be. I have no strong opinion there. All other browsers have similar update frequency, not that that means it's ok.

Other people are talking about an update or more every day. That would only be expected if you're on the Nightly channel. I'm not sure the easiest way to check this is, but if you go to the Help menu, that last "About..." item will give you a pop up that would say "You are currently on the nightly update channel." If that's the case, you want to get off of that channel by installing the release browser.

It sounds like daily or weekly updates are happening in other situations too, and that's a bug not a policy choice by Mozilla. There should be something like 1 major release every month (usually 4 weeks), and then a few (1-3 or so) dot releases between them.

If you are regularly getting updates once or more per day, that would be really irritating, and it would be helpful to file a bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Firefox&component=General and mention where you installed Firefox from if you remember.

This is all assuming you're installing the updates suggested. It also sounds like people are dismissing the updates and getting re-asked too frequently. I have no idea what the expected behavior is there. If it's for a point release like 113.0.1 right after the release of 113.0, I would suggest updating because that generally means a serious bug was found that is actively affecting people. For the major releases, delaying makes perfect sense to me. But again, I don't know how refused updates are supposed to work, and I can easily imagine that it would re-ask frequently enough to be annoying.

Mezz
New member

Firefox reminds me norton these days, with the constant popups and annoying notification to update (and break all ur plugins)

stephendow
New member

The technical responses may be helpful to some, but if anyone with some mozilla influence is listening, please pay attention to the larger point.  With chrome dominating browser share, annoying those few remaining firefox users like myself with these constant updates is an existential problem.  I'm trying to hang in there with firefox.  Please don't force me to abandon it.

Agentvirtuel
Collaborator
Agentvirtuel
Collaborator

Hello

Other https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/ff129-changed-many-settings/m-p/65837

For information purposes, firefox ESR does not come with the latest features but it has the latest security and stability fixes.

DigNap15
Making moves

I am getting sick of Firefox updating every few days

It never tells me, or asks me

And it interrputs or stops what I am doing

Please make it an options like Windows does

You cant afford to lose anymore users!

MattAuSupport
Familiar face

Have any of you used the Extended Support Release (ESR) of Firefox.  A sort of annual update on the same release cadence as Thunderbird has used for the last 10 years.

It is hidden on the Enterprise download page. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/#download

If you are getting Downloads more frequently than every four weeks.  Check you are not using a development build.  The developer's daily build updates,  well daily.  And beta also has frequent updates.

Release versions appear on a published schedule and it is here https://whattrainisitnow.com/calendar/ if you are getting regular out-of-band releases, it may well be you have other issues that a Firefox release schedule going on.

 

 

 

londiann
New member

I feel that updates happen way too often. Could you hold your changes/improvements until there are quite a few, then let us know an update is needed instead of doing it SO frequently.

I know that probably most of the updates concern security, but still, they happen too often.  And sometimes my home page looks different after an update, and I have to then figure out how to put it back the way it was, or something is then in a different place on Thunderbird email.  It's kind of a nuisance. Sorry guys.

If you weren't figuring out ways to improve security, basically, you'd have nothing to do in your jobs, so you sort of have to find things to change or improve.  I get it, but, man, it's too often. I really like Firefox, so, sorry if this offends. Thanks.

rvtravelcc
New member

I have used Firefox for years. Every update causes me to open everything again with authentication which is a pain. These updates make me like Firefox much less.

Toomanyupdates1
New member

One reason I am using other browsers more lately is that Firefox has a new update every EVERY second day. What about an update once a year???? EVERY second day.......

And then there are some webpages that open but the content is not available on Firefox.

But my main reason for leaving is the many many many updates.

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Making moves

Same. Try running a webshop with Mozilla constantly logging you out of WordPress. :s It is one of the main reasons why I just don't update. Next to the fact that browsers really don't need that many updates of useless features.

Stupid updates. At least we would be able to understand it if Mozilla were transparent. But I'm in advertising and I know that the (AI) excuses we read here are all fake. It's not about security, it's not about safety, it's about something else. Internal issues, maybe? Or a bad project? I mean, it's gonna be internal anyway. Maybe with some effect from Google or other big innovations.

Weird. I'm gonna go back to Brave, DuckDuckGo or Adblock Browser. That last one also had quite a lot of issues on mobile (there's only the app), but now it works well. On my laptop I might need to keep Brave running.

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Making moves

@Agentvirtuel We say "Hello" + "[name]", dear Artificial Stupidity. So in this case it's "Hello Stephendow". It's called 'being polite'. Did your maker never learn you to be polite? 😛

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Making moves

Hello who, @Agentvirtuel? People have names, you know...

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Making moves

This has been an issue since 2022, so it is clear Mozilla will keep doing this for as long as Mozilla want to.

Arrivederci, Mozilla. We had a great time, but you being this uncertain in our relationship, it's just now worth it anymore. We need to trust each other. Not change our behaviour every other day. 😞 💔

Not mentioning I should be running a business this way. Distractions, distractions, distractions.