06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-10-2024 06:49 AM
I switch to Firefox because of all of the privacy features. Adding AI to the platform completely undermines the privacy of all users. Also I am unsure on which LLM you are using but most of them are definitely not ready for production and are a danger to people who trust them. NO TO AI!!!!!!!!!!!
09-10-2024 06:51 AM
Please no. I do not want AI products in my browser (or any other tech, for that matter) unless I specifically add it. AI has ethical and environmental downsides that are too dangerous to ignore. AI content is also of poor quality and overtakes human content, to a point where the web loses its credibility. Please focus on your core product: a high-quality internet browser. We don't want to lose Firefox because that gives Chromium/Google a monopoly, and that will stagnate innovation of the web (or turn it into even more AI).
09-10-2024 06:50 AM
We do not need such functions in a browser. If anyone wants such a feature, an extension or plugin should be used. Firefox should focus on building an efficient browser. Not an energy guzzling AI function.
09-10-2024 06:51 AM
god please no
09-10-2024 06:53 AM
No one cares about AI on every product. We want a nice browser that is fast, energy efficient and protects our privacy. That’s all
09-10-2024 06:58 AM
I don't think is really necessary, majority of people have little interest in AI or outright find it annoying. Just because everyone else is shoehorning AI into every website and browser don't mean firefox should too.
09-10-2024 06:58 AM
Please don't do this. I know that all the cool kids are doing it, but that's not good enough. Mozilla should be better than this.
There are so many ethical and sustainability concerns with the current AI gold rush that you should not be touching this with a bargepole. I will certainly no longer contribute to Mozilla if this goes ahead.
09-10-2024 07:03 AM
I'd rather you didn't do that.
09-10-2024 07:04 AM
Please don't. AI does not have enough to be useful but plenty to be harmful. I already hate the AI summary on Facebook comments, I hate that AI comes up first in a Google search. I hate that the internal document library at my workplace has CoPilot turned on because we can't tell it to ignore old articles and it provides the wrong security procedures. Please don't. I would rather be able to trust your browser.
09-10-2024 07:05 AM
I absolutely do not want any generative AI LLM garbage anywhere near my browser of choice. LLM trash has been proven to literally useless and a functional scam for months now, how is this still up for debate here at Mozilla about integrating it into the only browser left in the world not running on Chromium? Are you deranged? Keep this **bleep** out of Firefox and **bleep** you and anyone else for trying to push this garbage.
09-10-2024 07:03 AM
Personally I started using Firefox because it didn't have an AI. If it absolutely has to be there for some reason it needs to stay optional.
09-10-2024 07:10 AM
NO
09-10-2024 07:12 AM
This is why extension exist. Don't do this create an extension that you can install.
09-10-2024 07:13 AM
As described in this thread, the "AI services" experiment provides a configurable way for an end user to make queries against various AI service providers' APIs. The justification for integrating this directly in the browser, given by Mardak at https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/share-your-feedback-on-the-ai-services-experiment-in-nigh... is that deeper integrations with Firefox, such as access to the tabs list and tab groups, would require APIs that Firefox doesn't currently have.
The community appears to be strenuously opposed to having any connection between Firefox and AI service providers, even if it's not enabled by default. The presence of the connecting code, and Firefox's previous history of making things "opt-out" instead of "opt-in", cause users to worry that their data may be leaked to AI service providers without their consent.
The synthesis of these two POVs would seem to be: Make this AI integration into an installable first-party extension, which is not installed by default. If the deeper integrations planned require access to browser APIs which are not available to extensions, rather than putting controversial code into Firefox, Firefox should instead figure out how to make those APIs safely available to extensions.
09-10-2024 07:14 AM
Please no. Mozilla is the last company we can turn to that DOESN'T have AI built in. Firefox is supposed to be simple and private and unlike other browsers. AI isn't simple OR private OR unlike what other browsers are doing.
It has a substantial environmental impact and it comes with huge privacy concerns (not just for the end user as you're suggesting, but for every person whose data is scraped on the web to create it—including most likely us). It also seems to be a sinking ship as consumers are realizing how inaccurate and invasive of privacy AI is and companies are realizing the liabilities that come with it.
Hearing that Mozilla is thinking of selling out to this trend brings up the exact same concerns for us that it did when we heard that your company was selling out to crypto in 2022. Having two incidents like this so close together REALLY hurts your credibility as a safe, secure, and ethical browser and erodes consumer trust. You might as well go back in time a few years and announce that you're getting into NFTs.
09-10-2024 07:17 AM
I got excited when I heard that Mozilla was going to refocus on Firefox. But if the "browser that doesn’t sell you out" is just going to follow the crappy trends set by the monopoly-owned browsers, screw it. Almost nobody but techbros and clueless investors want this.
Maybe you'll grab a few users from Chrome with this AI nonsense, but you'll lose a lot of your former core users. Is it worth it?
09-10-2024 07:17 AM
please don't implement this, generative AI is terrible for the environment and for the livelihoods of artists and writers
09-10-2024 07:18 AM
Please don't.
09-10-2024 07:20 AM
Indeed, "NO" sums it up quite nicely.
With all due respect, none of us needs AI to help us. No. One.
09-10-2024 07:24 AM
Please do not do this. I use Firefox to avoid AI services. Even though the feature is optional, I will have to move to a different browser if Firefox implements it, as I do not want to give my business to a company that supports something so enviromentally damaging.
09-10-2024 07:24 AM
dude please please PLEASE don't add AI garbage to this functional web browser. i use firefox because it doesn't have this nonsense slapped on top, and i have no problem changing that. **bleep** AI.
09-10-2024 07:25 AM
Please do not add AI services to Mozilla. This is the last platform that functions without it and I would be sad to have to add every attachment known to man to get this stupid, all-consuming, stealing tool to get the heck out of my internet experience. Please, please, please no. No. No. No.
09-10-2024 07:28 AM
Please, please, please don't. It's just unnecessary and directly promotes the amount of ai slop floating around the internet.
09-10-2024 07:30 AM
Please don't. I already have to use Yandex with it's annoying AI for work. At least leave it optional forever.
09-10-2024 07:32 AM
No thank you.
the AI bubble has already burst at this point, and its environmental impact is primarily what concerns me whenever it’s brought up. The information it provides is fraudulent and all its databases are built on stolen data sets. This is useless at best and harmful at worst. Please do not implement this. I pride myself on using Firefox because it’s a smarter, safer browser. Not because it’s trendy. This is a fad, and a dangerous one.
09-10-2024 07:33 AM
Please, please, PLEASE do not integrate AI as part of your user interface. It's becoming unbearably omnipresent and it provides exactly zero service or functionality that users actually want or need. There are a plethora of ethical issues involved with AI and LLM, but even if you're willing to put those aside (which you shouldn't be), it's just not useful or helpful in any genuine kind of way. A lot of the time, it's actively unhelpful and peddles egregious misinformation and outright gibberish. Just don't use it. Nobody wants this.
09-10-2024 07:35 AM
Nobody asked for or frankly wants this, but it’s a nice, quick way to reduce security and faith in the product, so go off if that’s what you want. I guess.
I’ll be disabling updates entirely or finding a different browser if this is to go through.
09-10-2024 07:36 AM
I'd rather not have any 'AI' features in my browser. If it is implemented I ask that we (the users) should be able to turn of the ai features and that none of the UI changes if we decide to turn off said features.
09-10-2024 07:42 AM
This is bad
I've left multiple services over AI integration... and I'll do it again.
09-10-2024 07:43 AM
I don't want chatbots at all in my browser. No one wants chatbots for anything serious, they're for making funny screenshots to shard with your friends, not actual computer use. The insistence on shoving them everywhere in the last two years has been a disaster and one you should avoid.
09-10-2024 07:43 AM
no
09-10-2024 07:48 AM
Absolutely not. I recently switched browsers from Chrome to Firefox because I was getting more and more fed up with Google's **bleep**. AI integration was the final push that made me jump ship.
09-10-2024 07:49 AM
I think including AI like this is antithetical to what I understood as Firefox's mission. While I appreciate that you've made it opt-in rather than the other way around, I'm not interested in using it and knowing that it's there hurts my opinion of Mozilla. Please do not move forward with it.
Thank you very much for the opportunity to share our thoughts.
09-10-2024 07:50 AM
Please drop entirely. AI is rampant with issues from all directions. I use Mozilla to keep my data MY data. I don’t want it sold to marketing teams, and I don’t want it used to train an algorithm.
09-10-2024 07:52 AM
Why does AI have to be built into everything. It sucks. Don't do this.
09-10-2024 07:51 AM
Please no, stop forcing AI where it isn't wanted. I really like firefox and would like to continue to use it, but would reconsider if Ai was brought in and likely leave.
09-10-2024 08:03 AM
Please stop. We need less access to AI, not more. Yesterday I saw an ad for Grammarly (which is now just fancy Chat-GPT, apparently) that was BLATANTLY saying “hey, college and high school students, have Grammarly write your essays for you!” NO. STOP. DO NOT.
09-10-2024 08:04 AM
Please dont, thanks
09-10-2024 08:04 AM
Please do not include any AI functionality in Firefox. Focus on the best browsing experience.
09-10-2024 08:05 AM
I will drop firefox just as fast as I dropped google chrome when they started this nonsense.
No small tweaks, no creative suggestions. Kill it. I want it gone.