Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[Mills]

I switched to Firefox to get away from this worthless slop being crapped into Chrome, and I will gladly find a new browser if you insist on shoving this bloatware into a perfectly good browser.

[Katysha]

No pls

[MaddieBIRDZ]

Here's the feedback: Don't integrate AI. We don't want it. It's wasteful, privacy-violating, pointless, actively detrimental to user experience, and Stupid As **bleep**. We do not want it, do not do it. It will not make you a more competitive browser. The reason you're competitive at all is because you're an alternative to **bleep** like this on Basically Every Other Browser. Focus up and don't do AI. 

[lucius-q-user]

This is not a feature that should ever be integrated into core firefox code. The purpose of the browser is to display the web page as the author intended, not replace it with machine-generated slop. And if there really is a demand for slop, extensions are a thing, such potential user can easily install their favorite slop provider. In fact, on the topic of extensions, if you are really doing this in response to "user" demand, why not integrate an adblocker into the browser instead, the AMO download stats do show that there is actual demand for that feature.

[henalie]

please don't do this

[JamesC94]

Please do not add AI integration to Firefox: the technology doesn't have nearly enough sophistication to be useful as a browser tool or service at this point in time, as can be seen with Google's attempts to provide search result summaries to its users.

[paulshryock]

Please don't.

[Artiom4ik]

With all due respect, I have seen AI used in many apps and on many websites where it simply has no proper use. I know full well that this is optional, but I don't feel like AI would enhance my browsing experience, and the same may be true for others in this thread, too.

[CarollaCalyxo]

No, thank you. I do not need AI integration I to my browser. If it is added anyways, I will need to be able to easily turn off the feature and opt out of my data being used for any AI training. 

[sher1bot]

Do Not Add This To Firefox I Will Literally Stop Using It Forever If You Pull This Nonsense.

[ToillingMadman]

Hello, please do not implement AI into Firefox, even if it was optional, I feel it would tarnish Firefoxs’ image as a reliable and reputable web browser. Just keep doing the good work y’all are doing, we appreciate that more than having faulty AI ‘tech’ pushed down our throats.

[dispatchrabbi]

Please do not do this. Everywhere else is shoving AI in our faces; I do not want it directly in the program I use to interface with the internet. If others want to use AI in this way, let them add an extension. Firefox is a browser, and adding AI does not further its cause as a browser.

Resist this fad. Firefox did not need crypto integration and it does not need AI integration.

[theo80]

The disclaimer at the bottom is wrong; it says "Generated content may be inaccurate or false", which is misleading. It should say "Any accuracy in output is purely coincidental. Check every word of output. Read the source material three times before trusting output. Then check output again. Do not use for anything even slightly important." The disclaimer font is also too small, and it should probably have a popup that repeats it.

[woomy]

Respectfully, do we need the 500th iteration of ChatGPT bloating up perfectly good engines? These models need to be fed so much content to learn that they have to eat their own regurgitation and these LLMs/art generators are going to become useless.

[antiphasis]

Plain and simple - No, i don't want any AI in the browser.
IMHO there's no need to jump on the bandwaggon. There's absolutely no need for this resource wasting guessing parrot stuff at all.

[heir]

I dont think adding ai to Firefox is a good move, i think most the user base uses it exactly because it has no annoying ai integrated into it wich feeds you missinformation

[dsmeets]

Please, I do not wish to see LLM integration in my browser.

I believe most people who use Firefox are doing so because they want a secure alternative to the Chrome ecosystem. For a considerable amount of us, it is out of privacy and ethical concerns.

There are many ethical concerns when it comes to LLMs. There are also non-trivial privacy issues.

Please do not go down this path, Mozilla, this weakens the trust users have in you.

[theothertom]

Thanks for this - it’s the push I needed to look properly at finding a new browser. 

[8bitmoon]

AI is a fad and a complete waste of time and resources. Firefox has been doing and will be doing just fine without it.

[glowyboi_ezra]

PLEASE dont add ai. One of the reasons firefox is so comfortable is because there is no ai in the searchbar. AI has been shown to be unreliable in its datascraping, as well as using user's information and spreading misinformation. DONT ADD AI TO FIREFOX

[wishfuldeity]

please just dont.

[mattjhayes]

Please do not add AI into Firefox. Keep it simple - just focus on maintaining a fast and secure browser. Adding "AI" is unnecessary cruft...

[Este]

If this is the direction, time to move away from firefox. Shame for those plugins I have learned to love. But Sometimes people must make sacrifices for greater good. And you have made so many bad decisions recently.

I still remember time when firefox market share was about 30%... Then it became too bloated, and lighter browser ate all that market share away (there is some irony here). BTW, When I started to use Fx, it was still called Phoenix.

It's been fun and long ride, so thank you for that. Plugin you could uninstall I could have accepted, but not this crap. I'll bet Fx goes below 2,5% within a year. After all, Fx isn't anymore actually mainstream browser, but for more conscious users, who don't appreciate these kind of underminings. Shame there soon is practically just one browser engine. You could have been the unbloated privacy friendly browser.

[asjl]

I don't want this built in to my browser. I might as well go back to Chrome when you do.

So long  and thanks for all the fish.

[slowpokedragon]

NO GODDAMN AI! i swear to god if this is the direction firefox is going im gonna switch to linux. jesus **bleep**ing christ. youre gonna lose a **bleep**load of users this way! what is WRONG with your executives? all they see is the hypothetical money signs and ignore their actual customers, users, and clients going "no, we do not want this!"

[Feral]

Others have already said it much better than I could.  AI doesn't belong in a browser that has previously touted itself as a privacy-conscious alternative to the  increasingly **bleep**ty corporate internet.   I don't care if it's something I can "just opt out of" - that's what they all say as they load more and more spyware and tracking junk onto or phones, computers, and everything we have to interact with in the digital realm. Very disappointed with the direction Mozilla is heading.  

[CattoGattito]

Please do not add any AI in firefox. 

[DarkGoddessDoll]

Firefox as a browser and mozilla as a company stand for privacy, which is why so many of us use it, because we value our privacy. The way I have seen AI gather data and output things has massive privacy risks. There's no currently ethical way to incorporate AI into a browser or search engine.

I know that myself and others have moved from browsers and search engines that incorporated AI because of the concerns we had.

[SmilingDemon]

Yeah, that will be a no.

How about working on QoL features like tab groups, or core features like expanding coverage of CSS? Rather than just chasing hype. Leave extension developers to provide AI integration for those who really desperately want to burn a load of energy to create an image or a load of text without any thought.

[dazzlepansy]

No, thank you.

[MangoMoony]

It's a good thing I read the replies first before bothering to invest multiple minutes of my time to give some proper feedback with sources, stats and studies. Because not only have others done this multiple times, the reaction of the Mozilla team also shows that anything that isn't endorsement is unwanted.

As such, I save myself my valuable time and just repeat the important part that others have also said:
If you - opt-in or not - implement AI into the base browser in any way, shape or form, then I will abandon Firefox. Doesn't matter that I used it for nearly 15 years now, on all devices. I have always been quick to recommend your browser for withstanding the pressure of chromium, ad-sellers and 'bloatification'. Perhaps it was naive to think you guys will remain stalwart against nonsense like this.

I recommend your leadership board members to really think about their next step, because you are standing at a fork right now, and this WILL make or break your neck. Many people invested a lot of time and work into recommending and advertising and even financially supporting you and thus may be tempted to overlook many a bad decision. But once the negative outweighs the positive - and literally world-destroying, property-stealing programs like chatGPT WILL be a line many will not cross for the sake of a BROWSER - , they will leave regardless and you will never regain that trust. Unity lost its entire costumer base with one dumb decision, Wizards of the Coast almost did it until they backpaddled and in fact moved the opposite way as apology.

If you believe that you will attract more with AI than you will lose, then that is your choice to make. I hope for your sake that you make the right one, because every user definitely will make their own as well, whether you like it or not.

[ehud1564]

Please do not do this!

[Thehybrid2914]

Please don't

[catboyteeth]

I am begging you not to do this

[JPenuchot]

How did Mozilla figure this feature would be popular among users? There are already a few AI extensions for Firefox, none of them was able to reach even 3k users. uBlock Origin is at 8 million.

[seeingteacup]

No one wants this. What is this even supposed to do?

You ask if it's a helpful addition. You do not say what it's supposed to even help with. Come on. You know this isn't useful.

[Atrus2000]

Absolutely not, as most AI/LLMs are unethical and huge electricity sinks, and there is no possible way that you're not aware of this. This sort of move is not how you get more users to try Firefox by jumping on the buzzword of the moment, it's how you lose what little dedicated audience you have left. People who use Firefox do it because they believe in what it stands for. If you're just going to be OK with stealing data and burning down the planet, we might as well use Chrome.

[krozruch]

JUST DON'T.

[fairywrenss]

Set up a forum profile just to complain about this – even regardless of my own (negative) opinions on generative AI, I dislike the idea of these kinds of additions being baked into the browser. If a user wants AI integration/easy access/whatever, then install an add-on for it. I use Firefox because it's easy to use and its additions are privacy focused; if Firefox starts adding fluff like this I'll look for another browser.

[am1t]

It's a nice feature and an idea in principle.

However, there are problems with the implementation that prevent me from using it:

1. There is no indication of which models are local-only, which models send data to 3rd party services, which models are based on free/open source software.

2. A checkbox to limit the selection to preferred service types: local only + does not send data outside + FOSS that limits the options available from the dropdown will help ensure I have the right model for my usecase.

It's more likely I will use this service if these are implemented.