06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 11:10 PM
we don't need it attached to the browser. It's already unavoidable in a lot of other places, the people who want AI can go find it there. AI is too hallucinatory to be useful, it needs a lot more time to bake before it can be anything it claims to be. Don't give in to the hype, let Firefox stay a bastion free from AI nonsense, please and thank you
09-09-2024 11:10 PM
Christ in heaven, PLEASE NO AI
09-09-2024 11:15 PM
Agree with the many others here - NO
So many other places (including WINDOWS itself) are shoving AI down our throats like it's some kind of miracle tool, when there are demonstrably many serious moral, ethical, policy, and privacy issues with it. Y'all don't need to join the train in this. Please do not add this feature (or any other AI/Chatbot features) to Firefox.
09-09-2024 11:15 PM
Please, please, please no. Absolutely begging you to not. Please.
09-09-2024 11:15 PM
Feedback? Sure: **bleep** off.
09-09-2024 11:16 PM
Hi, thanks for the update. I will stop using Firefox forever if this feature is added.
09-09-2024 11:16 PM
Please do not do this. In a moment when Google is already failing us, it is disappointing to think that Mozilla might follow them down the gold rush rabbit hole. Generative AI isn’t a general solution to anything. At *best* it is a part of a solution to a narrow problem, and even then, it won’t be able to realize that value until overt charlatans like OpenAI have collapsed and taken everyone they scammed with them.
09-09-2024 11:20 PM
Absolutely not. I am against anything AI. I do not want it to help me 'search' or whatever 'services' AI uses. You mean using millions of STOLEN arts to power itself to make regurgitation crap? Absolutely not. Firefox is one of the last bastions of en**bleep**ification of the internet. Do not en**bleep**ify your browser by adding AI garbage to it. Even if it IS optional adding AI to Firefox with significantly decrease my trust in Firefox. Utilizing AI is a death kneel. Do not fall for its garbage promises.
09-09-2024 11:20 PM
**bleep** AI. For the love of stars make it at the very least very easy to deactivate. We're using Firefox to avoid this very kind of thing, do not betray us
09-09-2024 11:21 PM
No thank you.
09-09-2024 11:23 PM
Please god no. I like Firefox because it is the browser that doesn't contain things like AI. I think a lot of us like Firefox because it lacks a lot of the nonsense "features" of other browsers. Langauge Learning Models are big, expensive, and energy intensive, and yet they solve no real practical problems. This "A.I." is a useless feature that does nothing to improve the experience of using Firefox. Please remove this "feature" as soon as possible, if we wanted this sort of thing we'd be using literally any other browser.
09-09-2024 11:24 PM - edited 09-09-2024 11:25 PM
This AI functionality which extends Firefox should be an extension. It's that simple.
Now to go into the ethics....I would never use it and never wanted this product and I think gen ai could be violation of copyright.
I will stop using Firefox and use Midori, falkon, or waterfox before I deal with this in my computers.
You guys are acting crypto/NFT koolaide mode.
09-09-2024 11:23 PM
I think AI has a long, LONG way to go before it can serve as a useful addition to any browsing experience! At the moment, AI still has a dreadful record with regards to providing false or "hallucinated" information in response to search queries, not to mention the massive copyright infringement in the content it's fed on. It's also inherited a lot of nasty biases regarding gender, race, etc., so I absolutely don't trust it to make my user experience any better whatsoever. I realise this is an optional feature, but better to avoid it altogether!
09-09-2024 11:27 PM
NO AI! Firefox is better WITHOUT it!!
09-09-2024 11:28 PM
I hope you understand that the kind of person who specifically chooses Firefox over the competition is the kind of person who's most likely to be anti-AI. There are so many ethical, environmental, and privacy concerns about the use of AI. It'd be one thing if this was an extension, but to turn AI chatbots into a built-in feature of the browser is antithetical to what the company supposedly stands for.
Perhaps the overwhelmingly negative response to the topic will wake you up to how bad this idea is.
09-09-2024 11:34 PM
This should be an optional extension (at best) instead of a core feature of Firefox.
In addition, Mozilla would do well to remember that privacy conscious users make up a majority of the Firefox power user demographic. That user demographic is very skeptical of the current generative AI hype cycle and are drawn to products (such as Firefox) that limit their exposure to the technology. That demographic also contains some of the project's greatest advocates and promoters. Adding generative AI technologies without proper due diligence and community consultation will drive that valuable demographic to competing products and will further harm Firefox perception and market share.
09-10-2024 06:14 AM
In addition to my previous comment, I would also like to add:
Adding proprietary service support to Firefox should be done through the Firefox extension store and maintained by the vendor. These services should never be a part of the basic Firefox experience. In addition, Mozilla should not be diverting their limited resources to supporting proprietary platforms without (at least) some form of financial compensation.
09-09-2024 11:43 PM
Absolutely NOT. I switched to Firefox from chrome SPECIFICALLY TO GET AWAY FROM AI.
and now I hear Firefox is considering adding AI…..not cool
we dont need AI in everything. We don’t WANT AI in everything. No. Just no.
Adding AI into Firefox will only lose you much of your userbase myself included as I’ve had enough of companies forcing AI on us in more or less every tech aspect of our lives nowdays. It’s dystopian. It’s miserable. It sucks. It’s untrustworthy and if anything’s been shown with AI in other browsers AI DOES NOT provide users with accurate answers to questions and in some cases provided users with outright DANGEROUS advice.
NO AI IN FIREFOX.
09-09-2024 11:42 PM
No, I don't want an AI in the browser. I chose Firefox because it's privacy-friendly, an AI would go against that. If I want to use an AI, there are lots out there I can use by going to the website.
09-09-2024 11:43 PM
please don't use AI like this, it's why I switched to firefox in the first place, this is a big big No
09-09-2024 11:45 PM
Use of Generative AI tools which were trained on copyright material is unethical. The damage these plagiarism machines are doing to both the physical environment and our collective repositories of knowledge is immense.
I have used Firefox for many years. If this feature is permitted to exist it will be clear that Mozilla's values no longer match mine. I will never use Firefox again.
09-09-2024 11:45 PM
Please do not do this I specifically dont want generative AI intergration. And
09-09-2024 11:47 PM
Ehm ... no.
09-09-2024 11:47 PM
I love Firefox, but I will drop it like a hot coal if you add in any type of AI. We don't want it, we don't need it.
09-09-2024 11:47 PM
please do not implement this feature. i have abandoned other browsers over exactly this, and i will abandon firefox too if this is implemented.
09-09-2024 11:49 PM
Absolutely not. If you put AI into Firefox, I will stick to the last version before it and stop telling anyone to use Firefox. Do not destroy yourselves as the last safe browser for people who want to maintain control over their Internet use.
NO AI. Not now, not ever.
09-09-2024 11:50 PM
please no
09-09-2024 11:50 PM
oh absolutely not
09-09-2024 11:59 PM
No thank you. I've yet to see anything reliable or useful from generative AI / spicy autocomplete, and it uses way too much energy.
09-10-2024 12:00 AM
Please no. Do not contaminate the last few bastions of the internet with AI. No one needs it, it doesn't solve anything, it only destroys the environment more, if a person needs a code checker pre-existing services and tools are available which are also not AI driven.
09-10-2024 12:01 AM
AI in this context can be dangerous and violate people's privacy. And privacy is the whole point I use Firefox now. Plus it'll impact the performance of the browser, even if its not enabled. Do NOT implement an AI "assistant" or any garbage like that.
09-10-2024 12:01 AM
No, thanks. (Stupid) AI like this is bad for the environment, and integrating it is another tech debt you have to care about, where the available resources doesn’t go into the useful, actual thing (web browser functionality).
09-10-2024 12:02 AM
Hey so I know it's probably been mentioned by other people in this thread but LLMs generally can just lie, they have no context for what they're saying and can very easily spread misinformation and as someone who works on websites I also know they're pretty notorious for scraping sites so quickly that they ruin the performance for actual people on them.
There is also a huge environmental concern as these models generally use too much energy (last I heard every query to a chatbot is basically the equivalent of pouring 20oz of water down the drain) which at the scale of a browser's userbase can cause a huge impact.
I also think it destroys trust for short term financial gains.
09-10-2024 12:07 AM
I like Firefox specifically because it didn't have features like this. No thankyou.
09-10-2024 12:07 AM
Let us stop using **bleep**ty LLM things. We do not need them. The only things LLMs are good for are very niche. Let us do other things.
09-10-2024 12:08 AM
Nobody asked for this. This is a web browser with extensions, make it an optional extension. Integrating this in the browser is a betrayal.
09-10-2024 12:08 AM
**bleep** off with this **bleep**, the last thing I want is more AI bull**bleep**. I will absolutely drop your sorry ass app for this.
09-10-2024 12:11 AM
Please G-d no
09-10-2024 12:11 AM
please don't, i'll accept a lot of weird stuff but definitely not wholesale integration of ai into the main browser i use
it seems like a bubble, anyways, and the development time might be better spent elsewhere
09-10-2024 12:12 AM
this is a terrible idea, please don't. AI doesn't belong in a browser, just stop it.