06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 02:45 PM
Please do not do this. AI is not wanted for assistance or ease
09-09-2024 02:45 PM
I came here to say that I don't want AI integration in firefox's core browser. Then I started reading the replies and just got really disappointed to see that the concerns of users like me are not being taken seriously, even when accompanied by long and thoughtful analysis. My trust in Mozilla just took a pretty big hit.
09-09-2024 02:45 PM
Greetings,
I appreciate y'all opening up this topic for public feedback; it's something most companies have chosen to ignore.
With that said, please do not incorporate AI into firefox. AI is built on stolen data, privacy violations, and an overall lack of care for human beings. Additionally, AI has been known to spread plentiful bouts of misinformation, which I'd rather not see every day.
I understand the desire to incorporate it, as it's been so heavily promoted across the tech industry. However, the choice to include it in firefox would fundamentally go against the principles firefox has laid out: safety, security, and privacy.
Once again, thank you for opening this up to public discussion, and for taking the time to read through responses.
Best wishes,
An appreciative Firefox user.
09-09-2024 02:46 PM
bad idea man...
09-09-2024 02:47 PM
Do not do this. I use Firefox because it doesn't shove AI in my face.
09-09-2024 02:48 PM
no thank you 🙂
09-09-2024 02:48 PM
I signed up on here specifically to say absolutely, hard, flat, permanent NO.
I do not want any "AI" 'services' or 'functionality' or 'features' in my browser, full stop. This is not a knee-jerk, nor a me-too, nor an uninformed choice. I don't claim to be a top expert, but my professional position requires that I know a fair amount about it, and that I keep up with developments in the field. On that basis:
NO. Keep your "AI" garbage all the way the hell away from me.
Please and thank you.
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
Do not add AI to Firefox, please. From a loyal user of over a decade.
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
Don't do this. I use Firefox BECAUSE it doesn't shove AI in my face at every available opportunity. AI is a useless tech fad that is making the internet less user friendly by the day. Ditch the AI.
09-09-2024 02:48 PM
Absolutely not, please and thanks!!! Generative AI is theft and often unintelligble nonsense. We don't need more of it!!
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
Please, don't.
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
NO THANK YOU; ABSOLUTELY NOT. KEEP AI OUT OF FIREFOX PLEASE!!!!!
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
No thanks, I'm tired of companies pushing AI. If this does end up becoming a feature I will switch browsers.
09-09-2024 02:49 PM
Please don't do this. There's no actual function that AI serves that can't be done better with other tools.
09-09-2024 02:51 PM
How about NOT shoving AI crap into a perfectly fine browser, thanks! The ethical and environmental concerns are enormous, the output is consistently garbage, and any actual "benefits" are minuscule to nonexistent.
09-09-2024 02:50 PM
Terrible idea. Not even dipping into the various ethical concerns of generative AI content training, it's absolutely horrible for the environment in numerous ways and there is simply no justification for causing that sort and degree of environmental damage for superfluous bells and whistles most people wish companies would stop forcing on them to begin with. Be responsible, be ethical, don't be yet more pushy dicks about AI.
09-09-2024 02:51 PM
For all that is holy PLEASE DON'T .
Generative AI wastes lots of resources, is bad for environment, steals from legitimate creators. Even if it's results are getting better (instead of the current medicore at best to straight up garbage at worst) it's still unethical and not worth it. Especially when it can be used illegally to create fake news, possibly fake evidence in court cases, or illegal pornography (like of minors of people who didn't consent to be depicted). Asking a human to do it is much harder and risky (therefore discouraging) for the felon - using AI would give them much more cover and they could cause more harm in shorter time till they're caught. And besides - it's not making any money and even investors are starting to doubt it.
To sum up: AI is sometimes looking cool but still unethical at best and outright harmful to people (not only artists it steals from) at worst. It will turn out better for you if you stand with the artists and other people against AI.
09-09-2024 02:51 PM
No. No, no, no.
You add this, I'm either finding another browser, or moving to a cave.
09-09-2024 02:54 PM
To put it succinctly, I will swap browsers if this is implemented.
09-09-2024 02:53 PM - edited 09-09-2024 02:57 PM
I have absolutely no interest in using any AI stuff ever, and I do not want to be put at risk of accidentally using it despite my wishes. AI brings too many ethical and *especially* environmental issues with it, that the aimed for implementation of an AI service is just extremely disappointing to see. Just no. No to AI forever.
Edit: additionally I would like to mention that I will *definitely* be switching to a browser that doesn't endorse AI if this gets implemented. I love Firefox, but I'm not willing to support AI. (And I specifically made an account just to share my disdain for this plan)
09-09-2024 02:53 PM
I absolutely do not want an environment-wrecking plagiarism machine involved in firefox even in an optional capacity. We're better than this. No AI. It's poorly named and not intelligent in any way, but regardless, I don't want it. No to this proposal.
09-09-2024 02:54 PM
Please, please, please, PLEASE do not implement AI into firefox! It feels like a massive privacy violation, and makes me feel uncomfortable with the idea with browsing any sort of adult media. I don't want my porn being scanned for AI, and as an artist, I *definitely* don't want my WIP screenshots that I take and send via mozilla to be being scanned for AI, either! Not only is it my sole source of income, I pour my heart and soul into my art- some of these pieces have been WIP's since 2021, and I'm still actively working on them!
PLEASE do not implement AI into Mozilla. You are one of our last bastions of not having our data skimmed for profits- if you lose that, what makes you any better than :spitting: google chrome?
09-09-2024 02:54 PM
Do Not Do This.
Lots of folks have expressed it better above and in articles than me, but the addition of AI is not only a gross waste of resources (water, power, etc) and Plagiarism HQ, it is antithetical to the reason most of us jumped over to Firefox in the first place. We found new browsers before, and we will do it again if needs must.
09-09-2024 02:54 PM - edited 09-09-2024 02:57 PM
NO, than you very much! This is the last thing that I want. It turned google search engine to sh*t. The results are below average, it consums too much natural ressources to function, and it steals from actual creators for content. No, no,no, did I mention no??
09-09-2024 02:56 PM
This feature is of questionable usefulness and morally dubious. It would be a shame if Firefox got tainted by this.
I really like some of the recent changes to Firefox, like the offline translation and the upcoming vertical tabs (good job to whoever worked on those things). I hope Firefox will continue to add (and refine) useful features, instead of chasing hype bubbles. Especially when features based on these hype cycles - as in the case of AI - don't just not add anything, but actively take something away.
Please no AI.
09-09-2024 02:56 PM
Big no. We don't want this intrusive, cumbersome, gimmicky, expensive and predatory tech here. Stop chasing stupid trends.
09-09-2024 02:56 PM
Don't you **bleep**ing dare put this garbage in the only decent alternative to Google Chrome.
09-09-2024 02:57 PM
not fond of this
09-09-2024 02:59 PM
I feel like this would be a waste of time. It seems a lot of users aren't all that interested in it (including me), I'd rather see you spend that time and energy on something else.
09-09-2024 03:02 PM
The entire reason I switched to Mobile Firefox is because Google wouldn't stop giving me useless AI "help". Do not.
09-09-2024 03:04 PM
Absolutely not. No.
09-09-2024 03:04 PM
Yeah, I'm with everyone else when I say no.
09-09-2024 03:05 PM
Don't.
That's it, that's the post.
09-09-2024 03:05 PM
No, thank you. Firefox is a great piece of software, the backbone of a lot of people's work.
From an environmental perspective, introducing such a sloppy and wasteful feature that basically churns a gallon of water and burns fuel to come up with good-looking misinformation would be a catastrophic step in the wrong direction.
I am yet to meet a single Firefox user that finds appeal in bull**bleep** generators, i.e., "AI bots".
09-09-2024 03:04 PM
Why would you ruin the one good browser with AI slop, and the only private one with data harvesting?
09-09-2024 03:08 PM
Under absolutely no circumstances should you implement AI, period. not just as an opt-in feature on the sidebar, but your telegraphed intent to add it to search and tabs means you have singlehandedly made both of those features completely useless, as LLMs do not know *anything*, just hallucinate things that tend to be right on occasion. Do not implement this. Do not implement this *ever*. LLMs are lying machines because they are physically incapable of knowing anything, and I refuse to let you feed my data to one in order for it to continue to be wrong about everything
09-09-2024 03:12 PM
under no circumstances do i want you feeding my browsing data and searches to an LLM - i came here to get *away* from compulsory privacy breaches
09-09-2024 03:16 PM
If you do this, you will lose a massive portion of your users that switched to Firefox to get away from the overuse of AI on other browsers. I personally will stop using Firefox if you even hint at integrating more AI into your browser, even if it can be turned off. I do not trust any corporation that is willing to touch this stuff with a 50 foot pole. You'd be making a horrible mistake.
09-09-2024 03:16 PM
No. In fact HELL no.
09-09-2024 03:16 PM
Please do not encourage the use of generative AI.
I know there are other types of AI that isnt about "creating" content, but generally the ones that are most frequently used by the average person are those that have stolen content (images, text and audio) and refused to compensate the creators for their work.
Therefore I please don not enable AI users, even if it is "opt-in" it is still there to be used.