Please, please allow us to place the tabs at the bottom

[Sonoiooo]

Please, please allow us to place the tabs at the bottom

[Agentvirtuel]

Hello

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/my-tabs-below-bookmarks-are-fukked-again/m-p/92463 (among others) https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/with-version-113-0-1-the-tab-bar-is-back-at-the-top-where... i have seen an code suggestion userChrome.css and tested, and it works.

#TabsToolbar {
    order: 2 !important;
}

[Krinstintian]

Please allow the tabs to be positioned at the bottom of the browser window, not just at the top and left.

[Jon]

(Note: similar ideas have been merged into this thread)

[Agentvirtuel]

Hello

Krinstintian, of course, it's not the answer expected, nevertheless.

For information purposes, Tab Mix Plus https://github.com/onemen/TabMixPlus

https://onemen.github.io/tabmixplus-docs/help/display-tab-bar

[isigarcia]

Dear Mozilla Firefox developers,

What many users have been requesting regarding the position of the browser tabs is not a matter of simple taste or nostalgia, but one of visual logic, ergonomics, and ocular health. After a certain age—or simply after many years of working in front of a screen—the human body favors looking toward a lower area of the monitor. This is not an opinion but basic visual physiology: the natural resting eye line sits approximately 15–20 degrees below the visual horizon.

However, modern browsers have removed almost all the ability to adjust the interface. They have eliminated the title bar, fixed the tabs at the very top, and restricted customization via CSS or internal settings. All in the name of a “clean, modern aesthetic,” at the expense of ergonomic and accessibility options that were perfectly feasible and, in many cases, already existed.

The consequence is that millions of users—especially those over 45 or 50 years old—must constantly strain their eyes or neck to interact with an interface that does not adapt to their physiology. On large screens or multi-monitor setups, having to look to the top of the display to switch tabs or check an address is not only uncomfortable, it is fatiguing.

What is most frustrating is that Firefox previously demonstrated this can be solved easily: with a simple CSS adjustment, tabs can be placed beneath the address bar in a fully functional and stable way. Therefore, this is not a technical limitation but a design decision that ignores a significant portion of the user community.

The problem is not impossibility, but a lack of willingness to retain options. Every control removed in the name of “simplicity” or “brand consistency” is a step away from accessibility. Browsers should adapt to users first—not the other way around.

For this reason, we ask Mozilla to seriously consider reintroducing — at least as an advanced option — the ability to place tabs below the address bar. Not only out of respect for long-time Firefox customizers, but as a matter of ergonomics, inclusion, and common sense.

Sincerely,
A long-time user who still trusts Firefox.

[Jon]

(Note: similar ideas have been merged into this thread)

[TheNaja]

@Jon 

Thank you for relentlessly since 3 years merging and merging all the questions related to the same topic in a single thread.

Some might think this would allow the topic to have more 'weight' by checking the amount of messages.

Some others, like me, prefer to think this is a way to hide the problem, to make sure it's not too present in the list of topics. So everyone can continue to happily ignore it.

So, instead of merging, when can we expect to have a real feedback, some real attention from the deciding people from your organization ?

When will you understand that this issue will never fade out ? You will always have people asking and asking. It has been 10 years now, and we are still here, and we will continue to be here.

When can we have a release date ? A target version ?

[BalloonPark]

Can anyone confirm if below CSS code is working for version 145.0.2?

https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/blob/master/chrome/tabs_on_bottom_v2.css

[DarkHestur]

Well, the update to 148.0.2 broke my .css and it seems that the chrome folder at AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\<id>.default-release is missing now, so I don't even know if making the folder manually and adding another .css will even work.

It's tiresome to have to find workarounds to achieve something that obviously many want to begin with.

[JIGSAW]

@DarkHestur Mine is still fine ... did all the updates as they came out and my Chrome folder never disappeared ?? Currently on 149.0.2 and all still good 👍

[Agentvirtuel]

Hello

A similar question https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1520202

It works

[TABSbelowURL]

As numerous said and still sayin: please allo users to have the option of putting the tabs where they belong, BELOW the URL address bar and directly above the webpages.

Users are asking for 10 years, why are you that deaf ???

[LaurensV]

@Agentvirtuel yes, it places the tabs below the URL-bar, but also the close and min/max buttons, and the title bar is gone.

[stevie22b]

I got so fed up with Firefox continuously breaking the ability to have tabs where I want them that I completely disabled the browsers ability to update. No doubt putting my online security at risk by doing so. At the moment I am still running version 133.0.  I simply got fed up with having to mess around with finding new .css code that would work.

I would dread what my browser would look like after an update. Wasting time renewing my add-on's to work with the new version, and finding code that would work to put my tabs back where I like them.

I have been subscribed to this thread for a few years now, and get sent an email each time a new post is made. Months would go by without any notifications, but the second I get a new notification in my inbox I know that the devs at Firefox have done it again - broke the ability to have browser tabs directly above the page content.

Reading the comments above it would seem that no new solution is available at the moment - well not one that does not cause other issues anyway.

I have been a loyal Firefox user for over 20 years now, loved it because it was always so user friendly, always allowed the user to configure the browser to their own personal liking. A shame that it's now become my biggest headache when it's comes to using the internet.

My current version of Firefox is now so old that some websites are now throwing captcha's at me when i want to log in, so I know before long I will be forced to update - so I hope that before long some kind soul who is much cleverer than me will have written a new code that will let us have our browser tabs where we want then, without causing other negative effects like the loss other functions.

All these years on and I still cannot understand why the dev's simply do not make that an easy option for us?

[JIGSAW]

@stevie22b  This have worked for me for a very long time so far ....