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Yodel5447
Strollin' around
Status: Trending idea

With the version Firefox 109 release, you added this new button without the option to change its position or move into the overflow area. Please let use move it. I can remove/hide almost every other UI element in the browser, why not this?

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italianplumber
New member

I strongly support this idea of taking extensions back to overflow menu. Also it would be great if "Search Tabs" button will only appear when amount of tabs doesn't fit in the visible line.

ShawnOgg
New member

Allow the extensions button to be removed from the toolbar please!

Extensions button only shows two out of the 14 extensions that are active on my Firefox. Seems a bit pointless if the extensions button can't display ALL extensions. Also extensions (Add-ons??) tend to be load and forget, unless some action is required. An unneeded addition to Firefox especially when there is no option to turn the extensions button off!

droonfang
New member

Get rid of this new annoyance NOW!!!!!!!!!! Firefox just gets more and more "controlling" and insistent on telling users what they MUST use and endure! Get out of our way!

Reddalo
Strollin' around

I signed up to Mozilla Connect just to comment about this issue. It's driving me insane. I like to completely customize my Firefox experience, but now that useless icon is taking space and I don't want it over there.

Many people are suggesting (here and on other websites) to change a setting in the about:config page, but that's not a good solution, nor a "permanent" one. Why do I have to mess with the internal browser configs when we already have a tool capable of customizing the toolbar?

MissPersnickety
Making moves

Give user an option to "remove Extension icon from toolbar"

Of course, I have already removed the Extension icon which was planted on my toolbar.  But I had to reconfig to do it.  No big deal, but Microsoft Edge gives their user an easier option by simply being able to right-click the icon and check "remove Extension from toolbar".  Why doesn't Firefox give us the same easy removal?  Not everyone needs or want this icon.  Please consider.  It needs to be  found in the menu, or like with Microsoft Edge, be able to right click the icon to get rid of it.

Mikula
Making moves

Overinstall v108, block auto-updates and wait for Firefox version without idiotic buttons on toolbar.

hrrsnmb
Making moves

Per https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/extensions-button:

 

"..it is currently not possible to remove this button or change its location. This is by design. The extensions toolbar button is now the primary user interface and allows access to per-site permissions for MV3 extensions"

 

Is someone able to explain in layman's terms what this means? What does being able to customize your toolbar have to do with the functionality of extensions?

ScottPaterson
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The user should be able to decide if they want to remove the extensions button. This was what made FireFox great, options not forcing choices.

PetervL
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I agree, it is not very useful to have a fixed button there. Personally I have no use for this new Extensions Button and really want to remove it so that it won't take up valuable space

Eden_Valentine
New member

It would make more sense if it was pinned in the "Security" or "Site information" menus, or at least movable to the "More tools menu, if one of your key features is customizability that is.

Zippie
New member

As a workaround, the button could be disabled via about:configextensions.unifiedExtensions.enabled = false. After a FF restart the Extensions appear in the Overflow menu, which is customizable.

ch4lox
New member

Ugh, what a weirdly random user hostile action. Don't add buttons that can't be removed to the otherwise customizable toolbar.

Skullomania
New member

Hi,

I'm in the minimalist camp also and like only having things I regularly use on my FF window. Anything else is an annoyance. Please let us drag this into the overflow.

While we're on the subject of unmoveable buttons. Can we also get the option to move the down arrow tab search button into the overflow as well?

Thanks.

ddfox
New member

I agree, I want to be able to move this (as well as a few other things I cannot move).

I have a couple of different Firefox profiles. In my my profile, the horizontal tab bar is hidden using userChrome.css (while I continue my search for the perfect vertical tabs extension, wishing I had a vertical toolbar distinct from and beside a collapsible sidebar, like the one in Vivaldi available to me), and I do not use the overflow menu, I put all my Firefox-native buttons and extension buttons on the menu bar, to the right of the actual classic menu, and the menu bar is enabled 99% of the time.

I would like to be able to put this new extensions button on the menu bar, with the other buttons. In my profiles that do not have the horizontal tab bar hidden, the extension button is on the main toolbar but outside of the address area. In my profile with the horizontal tab tab hidden, the extensions button gets moved into the address area of the main toolbar, along with the Reader View button, and one of the two buttons provided by the Firefox Multi-Account Containers addon (it's weird that I can move one of these buttons, but not both). Additionally the new tab button and open tabs dropdown menu button get moved out of the hidden horizontal tab bar, and onto the non-address area portion of the main toolbar. I can move the new tab button to the menu bar (and I can only even SEE the new tab button when I have the "customize toolbar" mode active, otherwise it is hidden, until I move it off the main toolbar and onto the menu bar).

Sometimes if I am doing something like watching Netflix, I do like to hide the menu bar temporarily, and close the vertical tabs sidebar, getting as close as I can to the native Ctrl + F11 UI-hiding-but-NOT-fullscreen behavior in Vivaldi). In those times and in general I prefer the main toolbar and address area to be as bare and clean as possible. I'd like to have ALL buttons on either the menu bar, or some future, secondary, toggleable/hideable VERTICAL toolbar (distinct from the wider sidebar, perhaps not even on the same side of the browser as the existing sidebar). I'd like to have BOTH buttons for the multi-account containers extension TOGETHER on the menu bar, I'd like to have the Reader View button TOGETHER with the Tranquility Reader button on the menu bar (because Reader View does not work over every site, so I sometimes have to fall back to Tranquility Reader), and I'd like to have the tabs dropdown menu button TOGETHER with the new tab button (which I can't even see, until I move it off the main toolbar) in the menu bar. Even the overflow menu button and hamburger menu buttons I'd like to be able to move to the menu bar (when someone has a large desktop or laptop screen, a hamburger menu button will never be a replacement for a normal menu bar, particularly when the entries among the two UI elements are not the same, and particularly in operating systems / graphical shells where this traditional menu can be exported to the OS / DE top bar, to save even more space, as was the case with the Ubuntu Unity 7 desktop environment, a particular extension for KDE Plasma 5 (Active Window Control I think it is called, as well as macOS.

All I want left on the main toolbar (for me personally) is:

  • the forward and backward navigation buttons
  • the protections, site information, and permissions dropdown menus (which seem to be three distinct entities now)
  • the combined address and search bar
  • the zoom level (shown even if at 100%)
  • the bookmark status star dropdown

I want all of the UI customizable, and there are features of Vivaldi (and even Edge) that should be present in Firefox, particularly with Firefox bleeding marketshare, and now also with Mozilla dividing attention to sponsor a new Mastodon instance, after previously almost spinning off the Thunderbird project if I recall correctly, then shutting down a phone thingie no one asked for, and then laying off staff last year if I am remembering correctly. Please make Firefox a power browser for power users, and at least give it optional UI parity with your Vivaldi and Edge competitors.

Here is a screenshot of my in-progress profile with the horizontal tab bar hidden, and the menu bar also used as a toolbar:

Screenshot from 2023-01-22 12-43-18.png

ddfox
New member

Wish I could edit my last (long) comment, but I'd also like to retain the container tab name in the primary toolbar (a better screenshot to reflect more UI elements and a LONG URL even without UTM strings and such ... note that sometimes I also tile two Firefox windows side by side ... in lieu of the Vivaldi tab tiling functionality ... no Firefox addon gets this exactly right .... and when these two windows are side by side, I just try to make sure at least the Firefox menu and navigation buttons are still visible in the narrower window ... but I'd like to have this entire Firefox UI still visible, with two tabs tiled side by side under/inside the uncompromised actual browser UI in a single window, the address area and other UI elements just acting on the tiled tab that currently has focus, and without resorting to some "moble" view of a page and other distracting UI addon-specific UI elements as with the Sideview addon, the Vivaldi tab tiling behavior does not suffer from any of these bugs):

Screenshot from 2023-01-22 13-05-04.png