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brochard
Making moves
Status: In review

Progressive Web apps are an important feature of a browser that Firefox is the only one missing.
For some, it can be the reason to switch to another browser.
In other cases like for the Steamdeck, it's what imposed the choice to only include Chrome in the SteamOS interface.
Other problem even for avid Firefox users, since I wanted Social apps on my pc I had to get them on the Microsoft Store which is an Edge PWA that opens every link in an Edge window, making me use this... other browser.

347 Comments
dhaval123
New member

I have given up on Mozilla/Firefox at this point and moved to Vivaldi. It almost feels like they are intentionally trying to lose market-share by not implementing useful features.

Jeppie
Making moves

 I would say pwa is a unnecessary feature because you can just use the website in the browser. 

BugHelper1222
Strollin' around

Agreed!

JSeb
Strollin' around

@Jeppie no pwa is far more versatile. You can make a website to open and not being tied to anything. It can open with its own window's size, position, etc. Its window won't be trigger by links from other applications. And it could start at startup in a separately from the browsing environment. For example, I like to use pwa to work in tiles for different comms applications. 

hazmil
New member

@Jeppiehaving the same taskbar icon for many open web applications, although with their own windows, is far from productive for me.

JSeb
Strollin' around

@hazmil I agree that it depends om the use case and user's preferences. But, to me, it's a incredible MUST.

ZenoArrow
New member

For all those people in this discussion that don't have a use for PWA, good for you, but you're not really adding to this discussion. This discussion is for those that would like the feature to state the case for why they would like it. Perhaps your energy would be better spent advocating for features you would like in a different discussion rather than wasting your time in this one, you'll not convince others that have tried PWA in other browsers that what they're asking for is wrong just by saying you wouldn't use them.

JSeb
Strollin' around

@ZenoArrow I don't agree with you. I want PWA strongly,but people that doesn't want PWA can still bring something to the discussion. Everyone should be able to write here, but I wish it would be something useful and not just bashing, though. Some could propose ways to make something different but as good as PWA. 

ben2talk
Strollin' around

@ZenoArroware you upset that some people question your reasons for requesting this?

I believe that most of the arguments thrown up here are invalid (like 'you can make a website open and not tied to anything' = incognito, or 'unaffected by other apps' - as is any alternative Firefox window/profile.

After initial excitement about the function (with Vivaldi it's labelled better as 'create shortcut' and with Linux it's better, because you can choose any browser) the fact that I couldn't easily set a webapp for Yahoo Mail, for example, which also contained my most important extensions and/or settings - and which then isolated me ... for example, instead of my normal 'search with SearXNG' I get 'search with Google' for a webapp which is bloody annoying.

Shuggsy
Strollin' around

The web browser is the primary window through which people interact with the internet. PWA have, for better or worse, become more of the norm since Mozilla decided they would abandon the development effort on it in Firefox to shift their resources elsewhere.

That's all well and good, but while Mozilla have been busy on things few people actually want (such as an extensions button that cannot be removed or even moved) other browsers have been actually developing and working on things people use. They built capabilities and people started using them.

Please, please get back to developing for the users! PWAs are just one capability but an increasingly important one.