06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-11-2024 06:41 PM - edited 09-11-2024 06:56 PM
This is a brilliant idea, Mozilla. Why continue to be a superlative browser that sets yourself apart from the advertiser content farm browsers of your competitors when instead you could integrate the same stupid AI junk and ruin your browser to be just like them, thus entirely removing the reason for your very existence.
You're not going to become Google, and trying just pisses off your actual users. Don't do this. I don't want to have to find another browser.
09-11-2024 06:43 PM
PLEASE DON'T. ugh. ai is NOT as great as people think it is! humans are incredibly ignorant therefore the ai that spews back all the bullsh*t we feed it is just as much so. 💀 no. don't.
09-11-2024 06:46 PM
As a longtime user of Firefox, I have absolutely no interest in any AI services. Every other company that uses AI has only made their product actively worse, so please don't. I like Firefox. It's the only browser I use and this has been true for the last, what, twenty years?
Say "no" to AI.
09-11-2024 06:47 PM
No. I will switch to another browser if you add AI. It is garbage and I do not consent.
09-11-2024 06:50 PM
I'd prefer Firefox to be completely clear of any AI garbage, thanks. If that's not possible, I'll look for alternative browsers.
09-11-2024 06:50 PM
oh Please god no 😭. I use Firefox to escape from the gradual "AI option no one wants" apocalypse.
09-11-2024 06:53 PM
i am so sick of ai please for the love of god dont add onto the garbage pile of "ai integration" with another annoying button ill never click except on accident theyre pointless just leave it alone idgaf i stg ill switch to opera gx
09-11-2024 06:58 PM
Does anybody else agree with my theory of why Mozilla Firefox should not have Artificial Intelligence? The summary is one dozen comments above. We are not robots, and Revelation proves so.
09-11-2024 07:05 PM
Terrible, terrible idea. AI (at least in the way things like ChatGPT and MidJourney operate) uses up far too much energy with little to no results of substance to speak for it.
09-11-2024 07:06 PM
please dont get into the unreliable mess of ai.
09-11-2024 07:11 PM
If Mozilla starts messing around with AI, I will no longer support Mozilla and I will find a browser other than Firefox. It's as simple as that. AI serves no useful purpose, and no one wants it; it's a tool - that can't even serve its intended purpose - foisted on a public that DOES NOT WANT IT by companies who want to recklessly jump on the bandwagon that's already wrecked on the side of the road. For all the ways in which Mozilla has shown themselves in the past to be a company that's distinctly better than many others, this signals to consumers that you WANT to be no better than the rest. No matter the form it takes, any applications of AI that have been developed in recent years plainly fail to achieve the most basic intended tasks, and the worst examples not only fail the consumers they are intended to serve, but take away jobs from real people who invariably perform the same task better in the first place. This is to say nothing of the colossal environmental havoc wrought by features that go unused by an undesirous public, the money and human resources wasted developing them, the needless costs forwarded to consumers for junk they didn't want added on in the first place, and still more. DO NOT add AI into Firefox. Toying with this garbage might be the biggest mistake that Mozilla could make, and your users are NOT happy!!!!
09-11-2024 07:25 PM
Please don't add an AI feature, guys. We use you because you're better than Google, PLEASE don't sink to their level...
09-11-2024 07:28 PM
PLEASE NO AI :)))
09-11-2024 07:41 PM
DO NOT **bleep**ING DO THIS
09-11-2024 07:51 PM
Just chiming in to say No Thanks! It's disappointing to see the AI craze has reached Mozilla too, though I shouldn't be surprised to see another company choosing greed over worker's rights and the environment
09-11-2024 07:57 PM
Hard no on adding AI features to Firefox.
Generative AI is extremely harmful to the environment, and adding this feature would only further exacerbate the issue, as it gives users easy access to AI. Additionally, it will likely lead to the spread of misinformation as these technologies are not able to problem solve and frequently make errors.
Unfortunate that this is what the web has come to.
09-11-2024 08:00 PM
Please no. I use Firefox because I care about online privacy and llms like the ones mentioned in earlier replies are antithetical to that. I don't want access to it built into my browser. I don't want to disable it I simply don't want it there. Everyone I know that uses Firefox, uses it for the same reasons that they don't use chatgpt and it's contemporaries. This honestly lowers my opinion of your product and I'll be looking for alternatives if this goes much further, and seeing how hard these ai companies are pushing their product, I'm not optimistic about how 'optional' all this will remain.
I like Firefox don't push users like me away 😞
09-11-2024 08:04 PM
Please do not do this. We don't need more "AI" slop shoved on us. Please, just no.
09-11-2024 08:08 PM
@asafko wrote:boost your productivity
This is a **bleep**ing laugh. Text-generating AI spouts utter bull**bleep** often enough that you have to double-check everything it gives you, which can easily take longer than doing everything yourself from the start. They haven't gotten any better about this over the course of the AI boom, so what makes anybody at Mozilla think it's ready to add even as a beta feature? That isn't even getting into the complaints this thread is probably already full of, like parent companies' ongoing lawsuits over copyright infringement and the wildly unsustainable environmental impact.
I've been using Firefox pretty much as long as it's been available--even when you brought on the Brave browser guy as CEO for five minutes, even when everyone else was switching to Chrome--and I can say this is easily as embarrassing as the former. The only people who want AI are grifters and the people who buy the grift, and you guys jumping on the bandwagon when you could be earning a reputation for steadfastness and consideration is enough to seriously test my loyalty.
09-11-2024 08:26 PM
I will quit using Firefox if AI features are added.
09-11-2024 08:37 PM
no.
09-11-2024 08:43 PM
keep ai out of the only good thing in tech rn
09-11-2024 08:45 PM
Noooooooooooo nooooooooo nooooo nooooooo
09-11-2024 08:52 PM
I do not like this, I am tired and exhausted of AI features; I do not use them and find them vastly ineffective. I do not want this in my browser.
09-11-2024 09:10 PM - edited 09-11-2024 09:13 PM
There are no words strong enough, in this or any language, to describe just how undesired this feature is, and just how much it is going to alienate users if it goes forward. Strongly advise completely abandoning this direction entirely.
09-11-2024 09:28 PM
Noooooooooooooooo! Please let us just have regular internet without clippy 2.0. So unhelpful.
09-11-2024 09:39 PM
i mean, i do like it being off by default, but i'd like for it to just not exist at all, please.
09-11-2024 09:48 PM
Absolutely not.
If you think Nightly users are big AI fans, you have drastically misunderstood why we're here. Tonight I'm booting DuckDuckGo as my default search specifically because they added their own hallucinating stochastic parrot.
09-11-2024 09:58 PM
No AI please, it will make me drop Firefox as my preferred browser instantly.
09-11-2024 10:09 PM
Please don't. The only reason I am using firefox at all is because it has no AI features. AI is a fad and will cost you users. This is a terrible idea.
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09-11-2024 10:23 PM
please dont
09-11-2024 10:34 PM
I use Firefox to avoid this **bleep** Mozilla, don't you dare!
09-11-2024 10:45 PM
No.
I stopped using firefox because of the baked-in adtech. I completely wiped firefox from all my systems because your AI 'experiment'.
AI is actively making the internet and the world a worse place. It gives false and incorrect information. It burns up the planet's resources at an alarming rate in a time where we least can afford this.
You've completed your decline in moral bankruptcy and are now on the same level as google, microsoft and all the other techbro farms.
All we asked for was a decent browser, and all you gave us was an increasingly en**bleep**ified experience.
09-11-2024 11:05 PM
Kind of useless and the fact that it breaks copy/paste for me on Windows makes it terrible. I literally got so angry about firefox not working anymore with copy/paste that I almost threw my mouse across the room. Yes, I have a problem, but the AI Feature is meh at best and a disaster at worst.
09-11-2024 11:07 PM
No. Remove it. Delete it. I do not want machine learning in any web browser for any reason. It wastes nothing but time and electricity. Please, for the love of whatever you hold dear and/or holy, reverse course on machine learning. This is not what I came to Firefox for.
09-11-2024 11:10 PM
Please add an option to add "Custom prompts" in the settings.
IT WOULD MAKE IT HELLA BETTER!!
09-11-2024 11:36 PM
NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! JUST NO.
AI is literally ruining the internet and is just an absolute waste of the resources it takes to keep it running.
JUST NO.
09-11-2024 11:40 PM
Why tho, it'd help answering questions while reading articles. Short, crisp and quick on the same page. Why's everyone so against it
09-12-2024 01:17 AM
The biggest one is that AI doesn't -know- anything. It just takes common search results and makes a guess. Many times those guesses are wrong.
AI is also actively taking jobs from artists and other creators. It's cheaper but does a horrible job.
There are also issues with how much power consumption it takes to develop and run AI. Many of these data centers use as much energy as a city!
AI in its current state has bad performance, is bad for creatives, and is bad for the environment.
09-12-2024 11:08 AM
My #1 concern when it comes to integrating AI into something like a browser is that I fundamentally do not trust any company to be responsible when it comes to sucking up huge quantities of user data and protecting user privacy. Almost every genAI model was trained on stolen data or data used without the permission/awareness of its creator. And the companies making these models are untrustworthy when it comes to disclosing where they get their training data and how they're using user data they collect. We've already seen incredibly invasive **bleep** like Microsoft's Recall that will feed every single thing you do or type on your computer into their AI model training pipeline. Every prompt or query you enter into an AI chatbot becomes data for it to learn from.
Not to mention the detrimental effect of massive AI datacenters on our climate. For example.