06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-11-2024 02:52 AM
Please don't add ai to the browser. It really doesn't add anything useful. I use Mozilla and duck duck go to avoid google's ai shenanigans. I don't want to have to find another browser.
09-11-2024 02:53 AM
Please don't, I'm so tired of AI, keep firefox AI free I'm begging you!!!
We don't need this and you don't need to waste your resources on this useless crap. If you enforce it, I and many other users will definitely keep it turned off so why introduce it at all if it will remain unused by many users?
09-11-2024 03:06 AM
I would be highly against this.
09-11-2024 03:12 AM
No. In all sincerity, please dont.
I dont want this.
I dont need this.
I am extremely concerned about the amount of power being wasted for this.
I am extremely concerned about how much material and content from actual humans was/will be stolen to build this AI model.
If I want to hear/read something comically wrong and or nonsensical I can always go on twitter or whatever its called today.
Firefox is pretty much the last useable Browser that doesnt eat all my Ram and/or steals all my data. I really dont want to search for another one again. Please dont make me.
So, yeah, uhh...
No, I dont want any AI services.
09-11-2024 03:36 AM
Please do not do this genuinely the reason you guys hadn’t added AI as a “feature” is just one of the most important reasons I use Firefox in the first place and I know so many other people feel the same way. There’s no real reason to do this, if you really want to just add a pre-linked bookmark to chatGPTs website or something. AI integration just makes the browsing experience clunkier and less enjoyable. Please rethink this idea, and if you do for some reason, please make it an entirely separate build that is its own browser. Thank you guys for the work you do to keep browsing independent and enjoyable, this is not it.
09-11-2024 03:48 AM
Absolutely not. I don't want any form of ai on my browser and I would move to a new more secure one as soon as possible.
09-11-2024 04:19 AM - edited 09-11-2024 04:20 AM
No. I came here not to be bugged by ai
09-11-2024 04:32 AM
get this AI **bleep** OUTTA here. i have been using firefox since my mother taught me how to use her mac in 2005. i WILL end this TWO DECADES OF USE if y'all get on the AI train, so help me god.
09-11-2024 04:56 AM
Definitely no to AI. I'll be looking for a new browser if this doesn't go away.
09-11-2024 05:01 AM
This kind of AI is useless at best and causes dangerous misinformation at worst. There is no reason for Mozilla to waste time adding this to Firefox.
09-11-2024 04:54 AM
NO. Chasing the latest "Big Tech" trend like Mozilla did with VR, Bitcoin donations (remember those?)
It's like Mozilla decisions makers live in a different world than Firefox users.
We do not want AI. We want a browser that is fast, safe and hostile to targeted advertising. That is all. Not only are you alienating your users with these decisions, but you're pushing away potential new users as well.
09-11-2024 05:08 AM
Please don’t add ai to Firefox you’re literally the last browser left that doesn’t have a bunch of ai it’s why a lot (maybe even most) users prefer Firefox. If you add this what’s left for people who have very valid ethical issues with AI?
09-11-2024 05:11 AM
Please don't. I do realize Firefox has to experiment, and make money somehow. But I'm pretty sure, this isn't it. People who want to use LLMs, have already plenty of ways to do that. It might be different if it would be a Mozilla developed model that can be run locally, at least that would offer an advantage over existing solutions. But otherwise it just makes it just much harder to safeguard browser data and is likely opposed to other features / benefits of Firefox as a privacy friendly browser.
09-11-2024 05:36 AM
Please do not
09-11-2024 05:36 AM
please don't do this
09-11-2024 05:51 AM
Please do not add it at all
09-11-2024 05:51 AM
Please don't do this. Beyond the fact that no one actually NEEDS this, you'll be contributing to toxic environmental damage and rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere, and to lousy working conditions for the humans who work to make AI do what limited things it can do. Don't.
09-11-2024 05:54 AM
I cannot begin to explain how UNinterested I am in AI anything, especially if it's tied to user control. AI has already proven itself unreliable and untrustworthy when it comes to handling information, and criminal at best when used for generation of any kind. I do not want AI to get any more information on me than it probably already has and I don't want to be made to use information on other people unwittingly. I have stopped using several things because of a sudden introduction of AI, I have no qualms leaving Firefox and finding some other browser.
09-11-2024 05:59 AM
Part of why I love firefox is it DOESNT participate in the AI movement. It’s impossible to get any real information with google chrome as it’s all filtered with ai and legitimately spreading misinformation. I understand it can look good to investors to say you have ai, but I implore you for your USER BASE, do not do this.
09-11-2024 06:07 AM
Why. I've already started moving away from Windows for Copilot garbage, Twitter for Grok and the data scraping, dA for the data scraping and GAN "art" flood... What the fresh ungodly **bleep** does my browser need "AI" too when it's already getting forcefed to me by every website AND my OS? Get this shlock out of here.
09-11-2024 06:24 AM
Everyone else has said it, but NO. I moved to firefox to avoid the AI, tracking and privacy BS all the other browsers are doing and I'm not afraid to do it again. AI is a waste of time and very literal energy.
09-11-2024 06:34 AM
Absolutely not, If this is implemented I'll be searching for a new browser.
09-11-2024 06:39 AM
The nice thing I'll say is I appreciate it being optional. However, that is it. I am not interested in utilizing "AI" being built or included with everything I own, use, or see. I think it is a endeavor that is brought upon by corporate FOMO (fear of missing out) and is a gimmick more than a tool.
I often see the benefits and features of "AI" touted about more than I do see its failures, downsides, and ethical concerns. I appreciate this discussion's commenters not shying away from those facts. Thank you.
09-11-2024 06:41 AM
NO.
No no no. No. No no. No no no no no, no no. No.
No.
AI in its current state/usage is hot garbage and completely unhelpful! Firefox users are here for the privacy control and functionality, why in the name of good common sense would y'all want to undo that?
09-11-2024 06:47 AM
Setting aside for a second the various ethical problems with generative AI - the plagiarism, the ungodly amount of energy required to fuel it, and so forth...
...Why would I need it in a web browser? What possible functionality would it add to me going onto websites and viewing the content of them, which is the functionality I want from a web browser. I already get infinite access to people being wrong on the internet (and also deliberate disinformation) via the web without a computer 'hallucinating' at me without any way for me to figure out where it thinks its source was (if it didn't just make it up whole cloth based on the linguistic probabilities) as well. What even is the imagined use case for this?
09-11-2024 06:55 AM
Oof please do not do this
09-11-2024 06:59 AM
AI "features" in websites and browsers have been persistently unhelpful and intrusive. There are serious environmental concerns in the maintenance of AI infrastructure including the power usage and water consumption. There are copyright concerns with training data, there are concerns about hallucination and misinformation. The technology is not at a point where it is useful and I would personally greatly appreciate it not coming to a browser I started using in part to specifically avoid this kind of thing that's happening to other browsers.
09-11-2024 07:03 AM
absolutely not please and thank you
09-11-2024 07:06 AM
Since it seems like my reply has been deleted, I'm posting it again. Do not implement AI.
Even if this reply gets deleted as well, I will come back and stand for this position. I do Not want AI in this browser. I do not Need AI in this browser. I do Not want to unwillingly held complicit in the damage that it contributes to the environment, to creative peoples' work, to the downfall of critical thinking.
I do not want AI in this browser. Full stop.
09-11-2024 07:33 AM
Please don’t. I use Firefox exactly because it is free of AI and thus massive waste of resources, intellectual property theft, etc etc. I will stop using Firefox if any AI features are implemented as this is completely against the original idea.
09-11-2024 07:48 AM
No thank you (/negative)
09-11-2024 07:59 AM
Do not add AI features to Firefox. AI is unreliable and unethical. As someone who uses Firefox, I do not want AI. Do not add AI.
09-11-2024 08:07 AM
Do Not.
09-11-2024 08:10 AM
Please don't include AI by default.
Make it an official extension if you must. Just don't make the vast majority of us who doesn't want anything to do with it, free from it all.
No matter how much "privacy" any AI model promises. I can't and won't trust them so I rather not have to abandon my favorite browser for it's inclusion. Please just reconsider the approach.
09-11-2024 08:21 AM
No thanks, I'd rather have one aspect on my online experience that isn't tainted with unecessary AI. I have to use Edge at work, and the AI functionality, although mostly optional is SO. ANNOYING. You never know if it is feeding out complete lies, and it is just a hinderance that it pops up before trusted results. The fact that FireFox has always been more secure and trustworthy is threatened by this change.
09-11-2024 08:28 AM
I left Chrome for Opera. I left Opera for Firefox. I will leave Firefox for Librewolf or a similar platform.
"AI" is still very much in its infancy. I, and many, many other Firefox users, would rather not see such integrated at all until it is further along in its development and more than just a tech fad that (more oft than not) provides a worse user experience.
There are a lot of beneficial uses to the data validation that AI can help perform, but this here is vague and feels entirely like a step in the wrong direction that goes against what Firefox is supposed to stand for in the first place.
09-11-2024 08:28 AM
I’d rather not have one, thank you
09-11-2024 08:35 AM
Nah, I don't want this or need it. Please go back to improving the web browser so it browses the web. If people want this sort of functionality they can get a plugin. Should definitely not be part of the core browser, or whatever. Keep it simple and don't follow hype cycles.
09-11-2024 08:38 AM
Listen. I genuinely appreciate you asking for feedback rather than simply cramming it down our throats like every tech company.
Please do not enable this feature except for anyone who opts into it. I don't want it, and I don't want to use it accidentally by clicking a mysterious new button.
09-11-2024 08:57 AM
No. No way. Absolutely not. No AI, please and thank you. Not even as an opt in. Please keep it away. I only just found a browser I can work with without all the nonsense browsers like google bring with tracking, ads, au, etc. Please don't make me dig for another