โ06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on โ10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and itโs there to see if itโs a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
Weโd love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and weโre open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether itโs small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
โ09-10-2024 02:08 PM
do not do this. nobody wants this useless bloat
โ09-10-2024 02:10 PM
Please, don't. Ai is actually a tool that show so many flaws. I want to use a browser i can rely on, without a feature (even though I can choose to use it or not) that i fear. Please, don't be evil.
PA Angelini
โ09-10-2024 02:09 PM
NO
NO AI
And if AI integration goes live I will be yeeting Firefox into the recycle bin and finding an alternative. This thread has already offered a few!
Why did anyone think this was a good idea?
โ09-10-2024 02:13 PM
Hi! Yeah I don't want this! I don't know a single person who would want this! Hope this helps!
โ09-10-2024 02:14 PM
DON'T, why would you do this??
โ09-10-2024 02:22 PM
Do NOT
โ09-10-2024 02:25 PM
Nah, plz dont do this. I'll refuse to use ur browser if u do
โ09-10-2024 02:27 PM
If Firefox continues this way, I will be switching browser. I've done it before and I am not afraid to do it again.
โ09-10-2024 02:31 PM - edited โ09-10-2024 02:32 PM
The inclusion of an "AI" chatbot feature needs some justification here. And some transparency.
There is a blatant push by the industry to include "AI" like this in everything, as it is the big new snakeoil everyone is trying to capitalize on. There are also a great many controversies about the products out there, too, be they environmental or ethical, so this response was probably expected.
So... please justify this direction in development and resources. Please provide some transparency.
What are the metrics that justify this feature?
There must be some demand to cater to such a controversial feature inclusion: so what are they? What % of your users even want this?
Perhaps (I suspect) the demand from coming from the top, yet another C-suite who has been sold some snake oil about genAI and FOMO?
Who are the stakeholders in this decision?
Obviously Mardak is playing from the classic genAI advocacy playbook, utilizing such classics as conflating "AI," the marketing term for the specific products being included in this feature, with pre-existing machine learning features like autocomplete. Who else is involved? Who pulled the trigger on this?
This is being pushed by someone; you really ought to explain who (since I doubt you have metrics that support the first question).
โ09-10-2024 02:36 PM
I hope that this AI bull**bleep** will be deactivated via about:config when it comes into the stable and is activated by default. It would be even better to be able to ban the corresponding module directly from Firefox.
Are you serious, Mozilla? Nobody wants this AI crap, but every company jumps on it like flies buzzing around **bleep**. Many users switch to Firefox precisely because they want to escape this AI crap that other browser manufacturers integrate. What is so great and special about AI? The only thing I notice is that even in 2024, AI won't even be able to properly add sound to videos or set proper subtitles. Not to mention pronunciation and emphasis...
If only Mozilla would listen to its community and user base once, just once...
โ09-10-2024 02:36 PM - edited โ09-10-2024 02:38 PM
Please donโt, especially not without explaining what manner of AI it is and why you think it is a worthwhile feature to add. โAIโ is a buzzword being used by seemingly every company these days as an excuse for increased user privacy violations with no apparent benefitโin fact, in many cases it has proven to be actively detrimental to the functionality of the platform (yes, Iโm talking about Google).
โ09-10-2024 02:46 PM
Please don't add ai
โ09-10-2024 02:59 PM
For the love of all that is holy, please don't add AI features to anything. I'm SO TIRED.
โ09-10-2024 03:05 PM
Do not.
โ09-10-2024 03:06 PM
No! Please don't add any "AI" features to Firefox.
People who want their browser to be hooked up to some big tech mumbo-jumbo bull**bleep** system will not use Firefox anyway. Isn't the whole point of Firefox to NOT do this kind of things?
โ09-10-2024 03:09 PM
I highly value firefox for its privacy and security measures as well as its mission of remaining an unobtrusive helpful browser and i think adding an AI functionality will only go against all of the best parts of firefox. Before this announcement i was an avid and outspoken supporter of firefox and will often recommend the people around me to switch to it as their primary browser but if youre going to integrate ai which is worse then a normal search engine, detrimental to the environment, and a safety/privacy biohazard i will be switching browsers once more.
Please reconsider this decision.
โ09-10-2024 03:17 PM
Please don't. I love Firefox, it's the only browser I will use, and I don't want that to change. These large language models are interesting as an experiment, but fail as a product for their inability to actually *understand* language, and inability to separate actual information from hallucinations. Please don't do this.
โ09-10-2024 03:21 PM
Please no.
โ09-10-2024 03:29 PM
I use Firefox partially to get away from all the awful AI/Machine Learning garbage. I'm very unhappy that the team is trying to lean into it, even after all of the information about how harmful and unethical it is on so many levels. Any AI integration makes me want to start looking for alternative browsers.
This move is honestly disappointing to see from a team I had otherwise respected.
โ09-10-2024 03:29 PM
I think that an addition of AI services to Firefox would only reduce functionality, increase chances of privacy breach, and reduce the quality of service that the browser provides. I am very against it.
โ09-10-2024 03:35 PM
NO! We do not need or want this. Some of the good things about firefox for a long time was the lack of AI and security it provides.
โ09-10-2024 03:36 PM
Absolutely no. I started USING firefox because it's better than Chrome and doesnt use AI. Im either going to have to find a new browser or follow advice to lock Firefox into an old version.
โ09-10-2024 03:43 PM
No AI
โ09-10-2024 03:45 PM
Stop that.
โ09-10-2024 03:49 PM
No. Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.
โ09-10-2024 03:53 PM
Please don't, i use firefox because it doesn't have the AI nonsense. I would heavily consider changing browsers if this is implemented
โ09-10-2024 03:55 PM
I would rather chew glass.
โ09-10-2024 03:56 PM
Please don't inplement AI features, I don't want to ise a browser with those.
โ09-10-2024 03:56 PM
Please do not ruin Firefox by adding useless AI!!!
โ09-10-2024 03:56 PM
Please don't.
โ09-10-2024 03:58 PM
please god no. Do Not taint this good browser with ai.
โ09-10-2024 03:56 PM
please don't add any kind of AI to firefox, all of the '' 'helpful AI' '' that's floating around is just actively poisoning the internet, generating misinformation, or both.
I for sure won't be using it but the fact that it would be there to begin with makes my skin crawl.
โ09-10-2024 03:58 PM
I would rather cut out my own eye than use ''ai'' and rhi makes me want to switch to another browser
โ09-10-2024 04:04 PM
AI kills our planet. Do not pass go. Do not continue. Cease this nonsense at once. You are better than this.
โ09-10-2024 04:04 PM
I do not want any ai man ๐ญ๐ญ I appreciate it being an option but it's just so useless and annoying on other browsers/apps please don't open the gate ๐ซถ
โ09-10-2024 04:04 PM
NOOO I DONT WANT AI !!!!
โ09-10-2024 04:05 PM
Please, no. AI has not done anything to enhance any other browser I have tried, I do not want it here.
โ09-10-2024 04:07 PM
My two favorite things about Firefox are the privacy and reliability. I know that when I use Firefox my data will be kept private, not sold to google or other mega corporations so I can be shown targeted ads. I also know that the browser and whole system will reliably work for me every time I try to use it. Neither of the same can be said about AI. AI steals data from people who never consented to having their words, artwork, voices, photos, videos etc taken to train an artificial โintelligenceโ. I never want my data or anything I write or make to be used for AI in any capacity at all! Itโs also incredibly unreliable. If I have a question, I can search up my question and read articles and sources to synthesize an answer. AI does not work like this. It takes information and presumes that things most commonly said are true, or worse it vomits up a random selection of words, none of which are true. Itโs extremely unreliable, and thatโs not even mentioning the environmental impacts it has. AI as it stands is completely contrary to the entire reason I use, like and trust Firefox! If weโre going to start spitting in the face of privacy and reliability, why would I continue to use this platform?
โ09-10-2024 04:09 PM
I believe this feature may not be particularly beneficial at this time. While I appreciate the interest in adopting emerging technologies, a brief online search will reveal that AI applications, such as ChatGPT and Midjourney, often lead to inefficiencies and can inadvertently disseminate misinformation. For example, Google's AI summarization tool has issued dangerous recommendations, including the synthesis of hazardous substances such as mustard gas and napalm.
Beyond concerns about potential slowdowns, I would strongly advise against the implementation of this feature due to the current instability of AI models and their reliance on predictive algorithms, which lack necessary fail-safes for reliable usage. Instead, I recommend redirecting our resources toward optimizing browser performance, particularly in relation to managing higher RAM usage, as this is a prevalent issue among many users.
โ09-10-2024 04:15 PM
Please don't. Please. No.