Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[cerah]

Please do not add an AI related functionality. Surely there are better ways to use the resources taken up by developing AI integration.

[shabnak]

Please no

[chantolove]

Hi, I heard this is where we could submit thoughts on the AI thing? I really don't want this introduced to Firefox, it's less than useless and will really slow down my browser. There's no real reason to force a silly chatbot into services that don't need it 😞

[LakeMichigan]

Firefox is the one browser that's not overflowing with this garbage please don't ruin it too.

[vexallus]

No.

Do not add some unethical data scraping LLM to firefox. I'm with the others that this contradicts the mozilla manifesto. It's not just about what the company of the model says they'll do with the chat user's data, it's also about how they trained their model in the first place, how invasive that is, not to mention the environmental impact and inflation of the pc parts market things like AI and crypto have done. Just stop. FF is the last mainstream browser that doesn't have AI. If people want to use it on FF, there are extensions and search engines they can use. Jfc.

[Eden]

Quite simply, if Firefox pushes AI into the browser, ESPECIALLY if it's opt-out rather than opt-in, I will be using a different browser and will not come back to Firefox. Period.

[DRMT]

Another strong NO

[Anonymous]

Hey Firefox, how about instead, you commit to having no AI integration at all and advertise yourselves as the non-AI browser alternative for all the people trying to avoid this stuff. If people want AI, they'll find an extension for that, you don't need to be building it into your product, optional or otherwise.

[TZ]

Go away with the AI bs. If I wanted stupid chat bots I'd use chrome.

[hyperdragon97]

Please don't add AI to Firefox. Have we learned nothing from the absolute nightmare of outright lethal misinformation that is ChatGPT?

[Tombfyre]

To keep it simple, I want no "AI" nonsense in this browser.

I also want no tracking, no advertisements, no anything that messes with my privacy just so yet another megacorp can monitor everything we do and make money off the information.

[mazzzo]

AI is useless, it uses up precious resources we don't have. I will absolutely dump firefox if you do this.

[afbourque]

GOOGLE put AI in everything and it ruined their once useful Thing They Did, now you guys want to COMPETE WITH GOOGLE by DOING WHAT GOOGLE DID????

Stop it. There are some useful applications for AI. Popping it on the search bar ain't it. Having it scour the internet (often illegally) for incorrect things to tell you SUCKS. Stop it.

Do I have to treat you like a cat? Do i have to get the internet equivalent of a spray bottle on you until ya'll behave? Or do we have to do something more drastic?

[pjasa-pratt]

Short answer: no.

Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Llammissar]

Sincerely, who is this for?

All these frivolous chatbot things can be accessed from a browser tab.  Firefox has been a tabbed browser since its inception.  Since before then, if we're being honest, even back when it was called Mozilla and had the fun dinosaur logo.

Consequently, this is a misfeature, if not missing the point entirely.  An arbitrary split pane that lets one pin a website while still browsing regularly would be a MUCH more valuable use of your engineering time than just a limited version that gives easy access to a source of lies.

Or if you really want to improve things, bring back spatial tab groups a la Panorama (you know, that amazing feature that you never advertised, booted to an XUL extension, and then killed by moving to WebExtensions-only).  You could even advertise it as a new feature and only about a dozen people like me would even realise you were lying.

You know, unlike this thing where everyone can tell you're trying to feed us breathelss marketing wank.

[lewafflelord]

Leave AI out of my browser!! The lack of this sort of bull**bleep** being forced upon me is why I made a full-time switch to Firefox in the first place!!

[vampirelich]

Please do not implement AI at all! Thanks!

[jjsanguine]

AI would make using Firefox more cumbersome for no benefit. The only people who want this are shareholders who jump on the newest shiny buzzword. Crypto currency, NFTs, metaverse, now AI. All things companies integrated poorly into software that already worked intending to figure out a use case later, then slowly let degrade when noone used them, after diverting funds and time and energy that could have been used on software maintainance.

[Vady]

If you force AI on me I will move to a different browser.

[Celuria]

No and no.
Non-analytical AI has proven time and time again to be a gross waste of energy and water in exchange for providing mediocre results, and in itself is just a result of mass non-consensual webcrawling and theft of writers, random posts, and millions of people who contributed to the modern internet on the premise of helping other human beings- not just feeding a misunderstood text generator that happens to look smarter than it actually is.

No, no, and again, no- please put your time and effort into something else.

[wutongtaiwan]

In my opinion, as long as this feature is turned off by default, there is not much harm to privacy. What really needs to be objected to is privacy-preserving attribution, which is enabled by default. Firefox's share has been declining due to the fact that there are so many missing features compared to Chrome that need popular features, such as vertical tabs, have not been developed before. Firefox also developed AI to follow the trend, and if Firefox didn't keep up with the trend, its market share might decline further. You don't have to be overly afraid of a feature that is turned off by default. In my country, this AI function is completely useless, because the AI chatbots used are all foreign, and all of them are blocked by the firewall, which means something, it means that I have one more function that I can't use at all, wasting my memory space in vain, but I still have no objection. I would still recommend that you go against privacy-preserving attribution

[andy33]

ew no! no ai

[andy33]

its bad enough that duckduckgo keeps turning its ai settings back on without my permission! dont hardbake ai into the browser! its not making money btw!

[teylon]

No. This is an energy drain we simply do not need.

[giacofmanytrade]

DO NOT DO THIS

[Sarahmb]

I will not use Firefox anymore if this is the case.

[istaranna]

Please NO, i really do not want more Ai stuff everywhere. Apart from the gigantic enviromental impact it has and the very questionable copyright stance regarding the training data, there is no need to ad this to firefox. if people really need this for some reason and cant just open a tab, an addon would be a way better solution. But i do not want any of this to be forced onto me, implemented in my browser or my os or anywhere.

[Sarahmb]

I am so tired of companies employing use of AI when it is so detrimental to so many.

[bullrush]

Strongly, strongly do not want LLM functionality anywhere in Firefox. I recommend Firefox everywhere as the mainstream browser that's still good and doesn't belong to a company that's gone all in on the GenAI bubble with all its attendant ethical issues. Please don't prove me wrong: I don't want to end up defaulting back to Chrome because there's no difference any more.

[ulewarose]

Hi, I do not believe that AI should be added to Firefox, I have to use Google and Microsoft for work and the AI that each company uses is detrimental to getting useful information. AI has been sold as something amazing when in reality it only gives you vague information that is not useful. I would not want to use the AI that Mozilla would add and if it was added I would do my best to never use it.

[Ovidi_Nawer]

If you want a clear, concise and easy answer: Nobody likes this. I don't think I will be able to add anything from a perspective that matters to computer people about why AI is so terrible but as an user:

As an user tho, this sucks, is imprecise, it is false, it is fake. There hasn't been a singular AI implementation in the past year (or maybe it's already 2?)  has been more than a failure on all directions except speculation for dudes who are more illiterate than me on coding. You don't need to join the first 3 boats that are going to burn in flames in the middle of the ocean y'know, we would be more thankful if you just... waited until AI was proven minimally succesful without using smoke and mirrors, or even better, never use a thing that has been trained on STEALING data which we, as individuals, for whatever reason, cannot even access unless we're "training a machine".

And for the attempts to use more ethical machine trained things: I appreciate all the frankenstein makers out there but I also appreciate that people who are born after the existence of the book gain a bit of self consciousness about how messed up can be creating an abomination towards humanity can be, for humanity and for the abomination themselves. Please don't feed the world with this.

AI will never be more useful than target advertisements. We're searching for god's sake, we're searching on a browser, we are here to search, not to ask a fake recreation of a human being things. If we wanted that we would go to a chatbot and do that instead. Just STOP. I don't need a faulty machine to help me with ANYTHING related to a web browser, the most basic of basics of progams on the world that even my now deceased at 92 y/o grandpa was able to use. My 3 y/o nieces know already how to use this. Why do we even need this at all? Do you want people to stop finding stuff, to stop searching stuff, just a machine that pulls whatever dumb biased incorrect answer some weird "invisible hand" choose to craft out of probability? We're already struggling to find -the real stuff- to now have to get a tiny dumb machine here.

And you say it's optional, and you say you have to activate it, but you already put an opt out here for target advertisement, you're going to push this through when it is convenient for you, it's that easy, it's that simple. Take a bite of the apple, start thinking about making everything an apple.

Stop. Creating. Frankensteins.

[Solarmama]

NO THANK YOU.

AI does not actually work, is environmentally unsound, relies on exploited third world workers to make its deranged output palatable, and hallucinates dangerous facts. Why would you want to tarnish Firefox with it?

If you must flirt with the devil, make it an extension so that it is actively opt-in; I bet you'll get fewer takers than you expect. I use Firefox because I can control my experience here, because I care about my privacy and I can do a lot of things to sift out the actively **bleep**ty stuff that is being imposed on other browsers and cluttering up online spaces now.

Adding AI to Firefox will make it one of the things I have to sift out. Just don't do it.

[LSG]

No, no, a thousand times no!

[WolfSquish]

Please for the love of a god I don't believe in do not do this

[Pauline]

Every single implementation of large language models, what you ephemistically call "AI", has been catastrophic everywhere else. It's a glorified text prediction system and pretending it is anything more than that is delusional. LLMs will routinely make **bleep** up, give false information and plagiarize. You will never fix this issue no matter how much you try to correct it because LLMs are not "Artificial Intelligence". They are not sentient. They are just a program made to string words together and follow the structure and grammar of English with no fundamental understanding of what they words they are saying means. I am blocking all Firefox updates until you remove this trash.

[thejauntyfool]

Please, for the love of God, don't do this. I use Firefox because it's the only one I trust. This kind of crap does nothing but erode the trust I have in you. This is just a small pebble to you, but it's going to drive away more users than it will ever attract. Scrolling through the other comments, I've only seen one or two people in support of this, while everyone else is begging you to not do it, to not cram yourself into the google-shaped mold they've been trying to cram you into. I don't care that it's off by default, the very fact of its existence will still erode that trust and will feel like the beginning of a rot that cannot be stopped.

[HJ]

I left chrome for firefox. But if you add AI. I might as well go back to chrome.

Please do not add ai.

[nataku31]

Absolutely not. Escaping AI has become increasingly difficult. Do not make it even more difficult to do so.

In addition to the massive toll AI takes on the environment, it is well known as a massive source of misinformation that is powered exclusively by theft of intellectual and creative properties. It's is is both unethical and a blatant attack on those of us who have spent our lives honing crafts.

[Ceropegiosity]

"AI" foraging "books" have already killed people. The only ethical choice is to avoid it and tell the truth - it is not intelligence, it is only the same level of mimicry as a hoverfly pretending to be a wasp.

[evraire]

• No AI
• No sponsors
• No recommendations
• No ads
• No suggestions

It's really so simple: just get out of my way!