Seeking your feedback on Tab Groups

[gharp]

Hi all – I’m Gabriel, on the Firefox team.

We launched Tag Groups half a year ago, and since then we have introduced a number of improvements based on your feedback. You can read more in our starting guide (my personal favorite: previewing tab group contents by hovering). Now that the feature has been in your hands for a while, we would welcome your input on what comes next! 

As we explore future enhancements, we are especially interested to hear your perspective on two areas: 

• Improving the usefulness of saved tab groups. How are you using saved tab groups? What benefits do they bring to your workflow compared to bookmarks (and bookmark folders)? How can we improve the experience? For example, we know there is a strong interest in being able to sync tab groups.
• Workspaces. Some of you have requested a way to separate contexts by creating workspaces – for instance, sets of tabs and tab groups that are entirely isolated from each other, yet remain available within a single browser window. We are eager to learn more about your workspace use cases and where context separation via window management, profiles, and/or containers doesn’t meet your workflow needs. And is collaboration with others an important feature of workspaces for you? 

Thanks in advance!

[Agentvirtuel]

A preference corresponds to a script.

Firefox advanced customization and configuration options.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-advanced-customization-and-configuration

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Firefox is a work in progress and, to allow for continuous innovation, Mozilla cannot guarantee that future updates won’t impact these customizations.

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@DarkBull09 wrote:

increased the grouping time

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Is it a preference, perhaps you could clarify.

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[gharp]

In addition to the option of disabling tab groups via browser.tabs.groups.enabled in about:config, we are exploring a setting that will specifically disable the creation of tab groups via the drag-and-drop method: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2005628

[Daenyx]

I turned this stupid **bleep** off as soon as I learned about it because it was nuking my RAM.

[PotatTheGreat]

love them, it's amazing how they save.
Pinning groups would be a welcome addition, plus groups being able to automatically collapse when I exit them would be nice.

[Nix255]

I really can't get the hang of using tab groups. They don't work as expected, and not anywhere near as well as they do in Chrome.
I created a tab group a while back. Saved it and closed it. Didn't like how one tab remained open after you closed it, would expect them all to disappear to a button or something. Then had to do a google search to find out how to reopen the tab group 🙄. Now I come back several weeks later and that tab group has completely disappeared, no sign of it anywhere. I thought it was saved? Not under the strange arrow tab button in the far corner, not under any new thing I've missed somewhere. I'm really confused. I'd love it if it just worked so that you can put tabs in a group, and access them easily at any time in the future. Simple, but perfect. 

[SleepyJoe2ndAcc]

Maybe you can have AI control all the tabs for you? I think this is a good mock-up from Gemini. Im glad Google was able to help here. Was worried google would get in trouble for copyright. Sorry new to this. Just wanted to help.

[Agentvirtuel]

Hello

About, On-device AI models in Firefox.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/on-device-models

How to use AI-enhanced tab groups.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-ai-enhanced-tab-groups

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1552786

[Apollo_01]

I just want an easy way to deactivate them. I don't use them but group stuff just by accident ... and this is pretty annonying.

[gharp]

@Apollo_01 to address the frustration that can arise from the accidental auto-creation of groups (usually when dragging and dropping tabs), we are planning a setting that would disable the creation of tab groups via the drag-and-drop method: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2005628

[Karlstens]

I'd love the ability to configure a Tab Group with a default website for when opening a new tab within that Tab Group. 

For example, a new Tab Group for "Youtube" that when I create a new tab in that group defaults to http://www.youtube.com

[alinsa]

Please, I'm begging, make the AI tab grouping work cross-window. That's something that could relatively quickly make a lot of my pain go away, and restricting it to only being able to process a single window seems like such an arbitrarily restrictive limitation!

[emilise]

Tab groups are great, thanks !!

As I have the "browser.tabs.insertAfterCurrent" set to true, I would like to have a + button at the end of each tab group (or at least the current one). It makes my brain confused to have the + at the end of the row, knowing I want a new tab in my current group (which may not be the last one). Current design makes me feel like the + button belongs to the last collapsed tab group, and thus I am missing + buttons on other tab groups.

Also I would rather have tabs open at the end of the current tab group, rather than after the current tab.

A magic feature would be that commonly used URLs open in their usual tab group. Would be useful either for bookmarks (bookmark bar) or entering an URL in the URL bar -> as soon as you hit enter, the tab is placed in its rightful tab group!

[janl]

My first encounter with tab groups was when Panorama released in Firefox back in the day. I didn't particularly care for the graphical overview screen, just the grouping functionality and how it was implemented – it simply shows tabs from the selected group and hides all others. This is great if you're researching/working on multiple topics simultaneously, because you can focus on one at time and remove distractions.

I'm currently using Simple Tab Groups to get this functionality back, and don't use the built-in groups at all. I just can't get used to to the Chrome-inspired tab groups.

Before saving tab groups implemented they were complete no-go for me, because of the clutter in the tab bar. Save and close solves this problem, but then tab groups essentially become bookmark folders (just slightly more convenient to use) which is too much clicking for my workflow of ever wanting one group opened at a time.

To answer your questions on workspaces:

Yeah, I guess multiple windows would achieve a similar effect, but it would be clunky to use. You have to manually minimize ones you don't want to see, multiple windows clutter the OS taskbar/alt+tab view, you have to remember to close the browser using ctrl+Q instead of clicking X because then you're closing only one of the windows.

Profiles and containers don't solve this problem. For me workspaces only need to separate things visually, I don't need data separation (history, cookies, etc).

[maverick0675]

I use Tab Groups + Multi Account Containers. One thing I wish was Tab Groups to sync between devices (cloud backup preferred). 

[flexem]

In your second sentence, you call them "Tag (sic) Groups", not "Tab Groups".  Not confidence inspiring.

[Korval]

Adding the ability COLOR CODE Tab Folders would be extremely helpful  (e.g., work related - orange, home related - blue, hobby related - green)