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MuteDog
Making moves
Status: New idea

Instead of forcing AI stuff down your users throats, just put it into an add-on that users can install on the browser if they want it. If it's as great as you seem to believe, then what's the problem with making it opt-in by default instead of having to opt-out?

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wariat
Making moves

Even default addOn but with possibility to remove it / not install it all in one place!

Next step may beto make it possible for addOns to run only in p0rn mode (like now it is possible to set it to run in normal mode only).

This is the way I can think about using that stuff… in private window.

multi1
New member

Seconded! I want to turn off all the AI. I don't want to any of that. If I'm forced to, I'll switch to another browser.

theis
New member

I have been a Firefox user for years, ever since switching from Chrome for a more transparent browser. When the generative AI boom started, I was very, very glad that Firefox stayed out of it. The fact that Firefox had no AI features was a massive selling point, so the news that Firefox is going to "evolve into a modern AI browser," as Mozilla's new CEO put it, is deeply disappointing.

The rush towards implementing AI features hasn't lead to any demonstrable benefit for me as a consumer, and the environmental and economic repercussions behind AI leaves nothing but a sour taste in my mouth. Meanwhile, the talks about including a kill switch for the AI features are a band-aid solution in my eyes, considering how it implies that the AI features will be opt-in by default. Firefox is headed in a direction that no longer aligns with what I value, and I've already switched over to a new browser.

Kudos, Firefox. It's been good while it lasted.

Hulkmaster
New member

The reason why i've migrated from Google Chrome (and other Chromium wrappers) was because Firefox was user oriented

Steam (Valve) wins market competition because it is user oriented

I do not need AI slop stuff
- I DO NOT WANT AI (microsoft/twitter/google) to read what is on my screen
- I DO NOT WANT AI to pop here and there while i'm using browser
- I WANT 2 browser versions, where one version is COMPLETELY free of AI

When i want to use AI i go in my SAFE PRIVATE ORIENTED BROWSER to chatgpt.com or something

Not alway

craiglambie42
Making moves

This is totally correct and important. Do not bend to the will of big tech and put an AI monitoring our every move everywhere. 1984 or Brave New World - this is what they are warning about.
Not some autocrat, but an AI monitoring our every move - and eventually policing everything we do.
No thanks, no nanny state for me.

I don't really want to go browser shopping again. I just got really comfy here.

owallstromer
Making moves

Absolutely! It is extremely frustrating to see Mozilla keeps doubling down on forcing genAI down our throats as they are doing now, where you have to go dig around in the about:config every **bleep** update to see if they added some new LLM-stuff that you have to disable. 

It adds absolutely nothing of value for me, it destroys the planet and enriches the worst people living on it, so why should I have to have it installed on my computer and be forced to disable it (but be unable to actually get completely rid of it)? 

They have a few months to start listening to their community, after that I'm switching browsers.

Andrew_C
Strollin' around

I have used Firefox since the 2.x years and see it go through a lot of changes, some quite jarring at the time. I am NOT on board with the use of AI.

Mozilla should only be investing in AI if they can create new, clean LLM & diffusion models from scratch that are:

1) Ethical, and uncontaminated by plagiarised material most importantly

2) Accurate

3) Energy efficient

Adapting any existing models would fail on all 3 fronts and creating a new one from scratch would require the sort of investment Mozilla cant afford.