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Yodel5447
Strollin' around
Status: Trending idea

With the version Firefox 109 release, you added this new button without the option to change its position or move into the overflow area. Please let use move it. I can remove/hide almost every other UI element in the browser, why not this?

310 Comments
bussdriver
Strollin' around

New UI features should if possible (and this is often possible) be implemented as extensions or pseudo extensions which are enabled by default but can be disabled by users even if it is really just a proxy for a hidden about:config setting. You can use stats from these extensions to decide if a change is a failure although the power of you setting defaults will create significant bias.

Please do not disrespect users by FORCING changes upon them without providing a way to easily revert your changes.

The new extensions menu is not useful in it's current form. The old overflow menu was; I do not see the functionality I had in the old menu anywhere either...

jscher2000
Leader

Most people probably will need this button from time to time, but many would prefer to be able to move it somewhere else for that occasional use. There is a thread over on the Ideas side of the site you can vote for, as well as add further information on why this is would be an important feature:

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/please-let-us-move-the-new-extensions-button-into-the-overflow/...

9e84f3cf935e864
New member

Adding my voice to the throng. Terrible UX decision made here. Revert ASAP.

Luca_Pavan
Familiar face

Thanks for pointing it out, I was going to create a post about it, nice that someone could speak about this new irremovable Extensions button. I hope it will become movable and hidable, I want it off of my sight, most of the users don't need to check extensions' status (at least not so often to need a button always ready to use fast) so that button there becomes useless for them.

untitled
New member

I don't understand why this UI element is dictated to us. Very Bad Decision.

joelchrono12
New member

Seriously, let us get rid of this. I beg you

 

9e84f3cf935e864
New member

But most people used it just fine without it randomly being forced into the toolbar. I've had my password manager in that spot for years. I have repeatedly been taken to a completely different page many times now.

9e84f3cf935e864
New member

Coming back to say that I have yet again clicked on the wrong icon because this worthless button has pushed my other buttons out of position.

TalosDx
New member

I'm a very direct person and I always try to be very direct, so here's my take on the situation. Also, as a developer, I don’t understand why you removed the ability to remove this annoying button. Maintain one button code, even my little brother can do it without programming knowledge. What nonsense, even write in some topic. It's much easier for me to install Chrome than to deal with the next unpleasant changes. I installed Firefox for only 1 reason, the ability to configure the panel. Now I can't configure the most annoying part of it. Seriously, have you seen how the Intellij Idea is developed and why is it so popular? This is an IDE, a program for developing programs, it allows you to do absolutely everything, you can even remove all the buttons (ideal!). Tab navigation can be done by hotkeys, including closed tabs (crazy! very very cool feature). It's 2023 now, and you still can't set up hotkeys in the browser. Ctrl + W highlight a piece of code in Idea, and close the tab in Firefox. And instead of importing new features for convenience and thereby increasing the number of users, attracting them with convenience. On the contrary, you are making a non-removable non-configurable button, even about:config does not help to remove it. I've been coding for a very long time, I've seen all sorts of code, I've even coded for IBM Commerce, their IBM Solr, DB2 and stuff, and it's been hell. But when I talked to the developers about how the code could be made better and suggested how, I said what it would bring and how important it was for other people. They understood and did as I asked in turn, and I listened to them. Many solutions helped to reduce the number of errors in the code, increase the coverage of tests, rebuild the application architecture. (I even recently finished my diploma on a modern programming language) And here you have a topic for 10+ pages about some kind of * button, and everyone already understands that the button needs the old feature of hiding it at least in the settings bar. And you still haven't made a decision. I just went to my colleague who has been coding C for 20 years and asked his opinion on this. He said that it was nonsense to discuss what feature with the button, which most advanced browsers already have. If you don't return the button, I'll make a firefox autobuild repository with the **bleep** feature back. (this is to do a maximum of an hour of time, you can try to justify that this is difficult. But I know what the real problem is. You work remotely and that is why you have the opportunity to be lazy, how much real time do you work on a project per day? Are you too lazy to return this feature, it’s only for an hour, but you’re too lazy, because it’s much easier to make hired moderators take the rap than you, right, Mr. Developer? )

boxedy
New member

this button should act like every other button save for the menu button (which i understand why it is not removable).

however, this is especially a nuisance for me because... I DONT USE EXTENSIONS. i have never used extensions, and quite frankly i dont ever foresee myself using an extension. so having a button on my ui which does nothing, and i cannot remove is an anathema to me.

at a bare minimum, if you have no extensions, this button should not appear.

cipricus
Strollin' around

The Unified addons button should not affect the old overflow menu and the toolbar customization options.

As it stands now, after the introduction of the new button, the overflow has lost its options of adding addon icons to it (that is: hiding them in it), it can only contain menu items and zoom buttons. The option of having an addon shown on the toolbar or in the overflow should be a toolbar customization option as before, not one in the unified button.

Now the iconic "customize toolbar" option of Firefox seems almost useless.

The unified button is meant to contain all enabled addons anyway (although as it stands now it is less maneuverable than what we have under `about:addons`, which can be accessed with a button anyway), but when you have 20 or 30 they are too many to list, and hard to check, especially that they are not listed alphabetically and cannot be ordered by the user...

I find it better to be able to have:

  • 2 or 3 addons on the toolbar 
  • a few others hidden in the overflow menu (like an adblock or VPN that I need but don't want to see all the time) 
  • the rest in the unified button

then just the first and the last.

 

irock
New member

Before, I had maybe five extensions I had placed in my overflow menu. These were the ones I actually needed to access in the GUI. Now every time I want to access those extensions, I have to manually sift through a list of 20 extensions, 75% of which are extensions I never need to readily access. This has slowed my workflow down. I'm not willing to clutter up my toolbar by pinning five extensions either, because that would create visual clutter.

Users should be able to:

  • Completely remove the extensions button from the toolbar.
  • Place their extensions in the overflow menu.
  • Freely move the extensions button around in the toolbar.

There exists a dedicated add-ons page in Firefox. This new menu appears to be redundant and unnecessary.

EroJasper
New member

As a dedicated user of the Surface Pro 7 in tablet mode, I have consistently relied on Firefox as my preferred browser. In an effort to optimize my browsing experience, I relocated the back and forth buttons to the right side, allowing for convenient operation with my dominant right thumb. Despite this customization, I remain frustrated by the inability to move the menu button, which now serves as an obstacle in my workflow. Given the reputation of Firefox as a highly customizable browser, I am puzzled by the recent shift towards a rigid user interface. I respectfully implore the Firefox development team to reconsider their approach and rediscover the value that has endeared the browser to its users. I remain optimistic that this issue will be resolved in a short time frame.

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akunbuatfirefox
New member

Please just remove this button and feature. it's horrible, useless, broke workflow, break muscle memory, harder to pin my extensions to toolbar, cluter the toolbar, etc.

zhidkovu
New member

customizing are what we love Firefox for!