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brochard
Making moves
Status: In review

Like Google, Facebook, Apple...
Make it possible for websites to make a Login with Firefox option available so we have a trusted privacy preserving option given to us (and give Firefox some visibility)

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dean_1
Strollin' around

Could Firefox do a 'Sign in with Firefox' like Google and Facebook?

That would be nice. There already is the password manager (I see it is done on here, but if it were done on more sites), and I don't know if the Firefox e-mail is still a thing, but doing 'Sign in with Firefox' sounds like a good idea to get more people into Mozilla and be from a more privacy concerned company than Google and Facebook. 

Mte90
Making moves

Firefox account already does this for the various Mozilla platforms.

My guess that you mean to open that also to other platforms outside from Mozilla, I think that can be expensive to Mozilla to keep running and they will need to change the privacy policy but is something that they can probably discuss.

Obviously the next step should be that the platforms where you want to login enable that oauth.

dean_1
Strollin' around

Thanks for the reply!

 

It, of course, will be an expense, but surely it could be managed. With running a VPN service (albeit pay to use) and having a web browser there are costs. I would be willing to pay for a 'sign in with Firefox. Maybe then I could delete my Google account.

Fatal-reaction
New member

I could definitely see this the only problemI see is that Firefox is usually using 2fa keys and encryption methods so a sso wouldn't work maybe if there were a app to be handled directly Firefox and it sends you a sign encryption key evrytime or maybe a qr code to scan there are so many options I'm happy I could comment on the I'm new here and I enjoy feedback.

dean_1
Strollin' around

@Fatal-reaction, welcome! I'm new here as well.

I guess if Firefox wants to continue using two factor authentication rather than single sign on I would still switch. But that may not entice others. They do have the password manager which could be have a SSO account for some.

Lethal-dosage65
New member

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I have. a random question If I wanted to make my own ubi key to sign in with my laptop ans I wanted it to be encryed end to end along with have the key only trust my device. how would I go about on completing this I do not want it to use nfc. I wanna have my device as secure as possible. I know this isn't pertaining to the group but the links are my contribution and the question is just because I can't find a answer...any feedback would be awesome

Status changed to: New idea
Jon
Community Manager
Community Manager

Thanks for submitting an idea to the Mozilla Connect community! Your idea is now open to votes (aka kudos) and comments.

Serg
Employee
Employee

Having a single account to sign in everywhere is super convenient, but it also has some downsides:

  • easier to track user across different sites
  • attacker need to hack only one account to access many sites

It's best to use a password manager and to have different accounts on different sites.

brochard
Making moves

@SergI know it's not best practice but it's better than a weak password or connecting via Facebook/Google,
also Firefox has a password manager, getting your Firefox account hacked can already make you lose access to all your accounts.
The benefits outweights the drawbacks in my opinion and it expends the Mozilla ecosystem (which in my opinion is missing a big opportunity by not making google alternative services in partnership with other brands but that's an other subject)

Serg
Employee
Employee

Oh, absolutely agree that it's better than a weak or reused password!

Let me ask around, perhaps there are plans I'm not aware of.

Serg
Employee
Employee

I managed to find some piece of history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Persona

sfink
Employee
Employee

I think there's some current thought going into something like this as well. Decentralized identity? Federated identity? Those keywords have been thrown around.

I've seen a pointer to https://gitlab.com/bluesky-community1/decentralized-ecosystem/-/blob/master/README.md (unrelated to Mozilla, but contains thinking around identity.) I believe this has come up in the "wtf could blockchains be good for?" discussion.

I really wish BrowserId had gone somewhere.

If there's a centralized authority, it seems like you could have it issue as many identities per account as you want. Heck, Firefox Relay already does something like this, splitting one email into multiple. But this is tricky stuff that I don't understand very well, so I dunno.

 

Margie1984
New member

Thank you, I truly appreciate this.

Margie1984
New member

Does Firefox have password generator, because they do have apps that read passwords. Its just a thought.

SignalAffairs
Strollin' around

I like the overall idea of it, it would be interesting if Mozilla brought Persona back. I would trust it and use it over "Sign in with Google/Facebook/ect".

@Margie1984do you mean this? If so, then yes. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-generate-secure-password-firefox