Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[spap]

I am not on board the AI hype train. I choose Firefox in order to avoid big tech collecting users' data as much as I can. And one should not neglect the serious environmental impact of using this technology.

Having said that, I do acknowledge that a limited use of LLMs can be useful in certain cases. As such, I would say that what I would like to see you doing is:

1. Expose and set local LLMs as the default,
2. Provide users an easy way to choose / download llamafiles (with some info on the advantages of using model X over Y etc),
3. Allow users to run llamafiles directly from within the browser,
4. Explicitly warn users about the risks of using other chatbots.

Another couple of details:

1. I would prefer to have a dedicated section with actions when right clicking rather than having to to "Ask localhost" -> "Action",
2. I think "show prompts on text select" can be a bit intrusive and should be off by default,
3. It would also be interesting to have the ability to use this service in a second sidebar.

(Tested on Firefox via Labs - not on Nightly)

[spap]

Coming back to the idea of setting local LLMs as the default for anyone interested in using them and specifically integrating llamafiles within Firefox, I would like to see a complete management solution like a special settings section where:

1. llamafiles are organized by categories e.g., "text", "image" etc,
2. each model comes with a description of its capabilities,
3. I can download, remove and possibly update llamafiles (for example keeping the same base model but using a different version as they are organized currently on Hugging Face).

[majesticmini471]

Exactly! Was Firefox2.0 not based upon C++, Perl4>, and Ruby, if any other language, before 2007's ginormous corruption? Users and local servers lost so many rights and programs, right afterward. Firefox 3.6.9 was even spectacular, but has Mozilla and all illegal corporations associated not wanted to make all of Firefox go Oracle Java6< and .Net3< and Python3< and Swift3<? It would be the same as Chrome (Fome), Edge, Opera, Safari, and their insane descendants.

[spastic797]

Could DuckDuckGo AI Chat be added? Or add a way to specify a custom AI Chat Bot.

[spastic797]

Could the AI sidebar be placed in it's own container? I have a separate container for using AI Chatbots and it would be nice if the sidebar had it's own container or use the container I had already created for AI chatbots.

[jlries61]

Furthermore, it should be an extension so that those who want nothing to do with it don't have to have it.

[spastic797]

The 'Prompt on text select' is too easy to misclick. It's also visually jarring to see the icon pop up whenever I select text. I prefer accessing those options through the context menu (the menu opened with a right click).

[mattisafur]

New shortcut for the chatbot is causing issues with my password manager. Tried disabling the sidebar in the settings but it keeps popping up when pressing CTRL+SHIFT+L.

I think it's a pretty bad shortcut because a lot of password managers use it for autofill.

Opened a report on Bugzilla #1927324 - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1927324

[adrianlondon]

This needs to be fully disable-able.

At the moment, I turn it off in settings, try to get Bitwarden to work, but you've hijacked the keyboard combo and instead automatically re-enable this AI thing and then pop it up.

Either allow the keyboard shortcut to be disabled, or this entire feature to be disabled.  At the moment, you've blocked that - as you allow a keyboard shortcut to enable it and immediately run it, even if turned off in settings.  (With no hint of shortcut keys.)

[Kaoru]

I didn't care about this feature until you took the Ctrl+Shift+L I always use on my password manager for this feature. But it is a HARD NO for me!

[seateaeye]

This has been mapped to an annoying shortcut and activates on its own, even if I uncheck the box. Please fix this.

[Absolutely]

I started using Firefox as an alternative to Google Chrome about a year ago. It was smooth at first, but something changed.

My first real issue, STOP with the constant updates! (Yes, I disable automatic updates because I read them first). If you have security updates, don't package them behind experimental (dumb) add-ons.

LLM development inside Firefox, over just an extension looks bad in my eyes. Why? because it seems like you just want to collect people's data so you can yourself become another one of those types of companies (Google, Facebook).

On this same topic, I continuously see warnings and/ or highly negative comments based around implementing LLMs, but Firefox ignores those comments, Why?

Why give users votes, if you're not going to use them? This isn't a video game forum where you can easily blind people with gimmicks. People will see the bull s h i t.

I call on Firefox to not automatically contain large language models, unless the individual downloads it directly as a feature. It shouldn't automatically be contained in the Firefox browser by default, but as a separate download.

I came here to get away from all the fake labeling of artificial intelligence, because it's not actually intelligent.

Mozilla is playing a very dangerous game here with LLMs. If someone leaves Google for Firefox, they would happily leave Firefox for less.

[OhJeez56]

Frankly I do not want AI in anything, let alone my browser. I think it goes completely against the privacy that Firefox focuses on and holds dearly to have the ability to use such a data hoovering "tool" that is AI chatbots. Please reconsider adding this to our browsers. Is it really worth compromising the end user's privacy with a tech trend that probably is gonna tank in the near future?

[majesticmini471]

What does Mozilla, Corp. or any big-wig corporation care for their clients' terms, anymore?

[BrazenBunnies]

Use a very obscure keyboard shortcut to pull up the window. It currently uses Ctrl+Shift+L which is one I use all the time and now I need to adjust my muscle memory for a feature that re-enables itself every time I press the keyboard shortcut.

[Darkfangs]

I use Taskade which integrates ChatGPT and think that could be a very interesting partnership.

[reetp]

More junk and bloatware I don't need.

For those who want AI go off to a seach engine or website and play but don't embed more junk in the browser. Totoaslly unnecessary, apart from the fact that AI is far from 'Intelligent' and is barely pre -Alpha market hyped machine learning crud.

I'd rather you spent some figuring out the H265 scenario so we can play videos again than on this meaningless nonsense, and keep up to date with config settings so we can disable them easily across our network widewith policies instead of introducing features with no EASY way to to disable them as is current policy.

[gameray]

A shortcut for opening and closing would be nice

[BrazenBunnies]

ctrl+shift+L, which sucks

[argishure]

This doesn't work for me though? Are you using Glarity by any chance?

[yoyoyoyo]

I can see it being useful for School but please add a shortcut to toggle it, otherwise it is mostly in the way. If you add support for local LLMs like llama 3 I might actually consider using it, since I don't want to use any of the built in alternatives.

[tilwiti]

😳

[lackey]

rip sweet prince 💔 

[gracklecracklep]

hey i used this browser to Not have to deal w AI please dont do this xoxoxo

[argishure]

1) An option to separate its cookies so that it can be kept separate from our account or even run it like incognito. For example I already have my account logged in to ChatGPT and HuggingChat, and they are the only ones that allow chatting without creating an account. So any page translation/summary I do using them creates a new chat in my account, which creates a LOT of chats and becomes a struggle to manage.

2) An option to create a custom shortcut to open/close the Chatbot sidebar (or just provide us with a shortcut).

My Firefox version: 132.0 (64-bit)

[alt_squared]

This is a horrible feature that no one needs directly in-browser. Add it as an official extension if you must, but GenAI's ethical, environmental and privacy issues place it directly opposite the Mozilla manifesto. Remove this feature. You'll lose a lot of users if you do this.

[neooo]

I hope that the window for interacting with the AI service to be free. Voilà AI extansion is a great example of this for more smoother experience.

[XeroxisApple]

Enjoying this feature.. Keep them coming. 

[Retro]

Add the ability to use a local LLM on capable hardware (such as Llama), or allow adding custom URL schemas

[AstroHotel]

I do like the feature, but I have a few questions: First I wanna have a Shortcut to the Bot so that I can press ctrl+alt+K for example and it would pop up. This would be phenomenal.

[japeter2]

ctrl + shift + L as a shortcut interferes with one used by Bitwarden.

[akiyamka]

Coolest feature ever! thank you!

[philops]

Works great, but I would like to customise my own prompts

[akiyamka]

1. In about:config, create a new parameter with key `browser.ml.chat.prompts.x` (replace 'x' with any string, avoid numbers as they're reserved for default prompts)
2. Set type as `String`
3. Enter JSON in the following format:

{
  "label": "Propmpt name",
  "value": "Prompt value"
}

The page title and selected text will be automatically added as a prefix to the prompt, but are also available as variables: `%tabTitle%` and `%selection|12000%` where 12000 represents the character limit

[narmis]

I am a firm proponent of Mozilla generally and Firefox in particular. I am also a data scientist, and as such have been handling machine learning for several years now. It can be very useful when applied well. An introduction of “AI” into Firefox would mean I will stop using it entirely because it is categorically not a good application of machine learning.

I would be extremely sorry to see this happen, I hate to see so many companies fall into what can only be described as peer pressure to do “AI” like all the cool kids are doing.

[liltxcrabccore]

Get this slop out of my browser. Why in heavens name a privacy focused browser would be making this an available option is beyond me. Firefox has utterly lost the plot.

[argishure]

DuckDuckGo AI Chat please🙏🏻 It has 4 models built-in, doesn't require an account and is the only one which doesn't save chats. Can access Claude3H, Mixtral8x7B, Llama3.1(70B), GPT4o-mini all without an account.

Also, pretty private, people's սdders might calm down a little. (I cannot remove the bold dk why)

[Nobody_of_note]

Privacy isn't the only reason some of us have our udders all a flutter.  Also that's pretty insulting.

You might try reading more and stop relying on destructive services that clearly aren't helping your comprehension.

Look into the environmental impact of these toys, you are contributing to the damage we are doing to the planet.  Damage our children and their children have to try to survive.

[argishure]

Since you're going down that path, why don't we first ban all of TikTok, Reels, Shorts, artificial adult content and any other brain-rot that doesn't benefit humanity? These require hoards of servers that waste computational power.

Shouldn't we all stop eating non-veg because of its environmental impact (& ofcourse the horrible suffering)? It clearly doesn't have much of a benefit since atleast 30% of India (276mil people) seem to be doing fine.

AI has its positives & negatives as everything else. It's in its very early stages, can be hosted locally which consumes a lot less power, will get more efficient with time and will only require lesser power as hardware with better neural training abilities will emerge.

All the big corps aren't brainless to be chasing AI's heinie, they've thought about this a lot more than you. As we advance, any new tech that comes into play will eat up a good amount of energy.

[lackey]

Part 1: whataboutism. Mozilla isn't handing out free McDonald's vouchers, but they are enticing users into harmful crap. Mozilla says they are better than harmful crap. 

Part 2: Big Tech knows best: if you believe this, Google and Microsoft have your back