06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-16-2024 07:45 AM
Firefox needs to modernize without loosing its core values. I suggest implementing an integration with opensource local AI models like the phi3, which is real powerful and optimized to run locally. As an alternative, integration with the duckduckgo anonymised chat implementation, to run LLMs remotely but with less of a privacy hit.
09-16-2024 09:08 AM
I will not even bother to try out the feature because I do not want any sort of Ai service to be installed on Firefox. Literally no one who uses Firefox wants Ai services on Firefox. It's a waste of energy, it's inaccurate, and is pointless in the extreme.
09-16-2024 09:28 AM
This is the polar opposite of what your users want. Many of us use Firefox because you're one of the only main browsers that hasn't gone to hell with the introduction of AI. I want to be able to FIND THE THINGS I SEARCH FOR, and in every single other browser that's integrated AI, search result quality plummets. That doesn't even touch on security and environmental concerns. If AI is added to Firefox, I will be deleting it from all my devices and finding something else.
09-16-2024 09:44 AM
NO! 🤬
09-16-2024 10:24 AM
No thank you
09-16-2024 10:27 AM - edited 09-16-2024 10:29 AM
Incredibly disappointed that this addition has even been considered, let alone available.
09-16-2024 10:37 AM
please firefox you my only ho dont do this 😭
09-16-2024 10:56 AM
NO ONE i mean LITERALLY NO ONE wants this feature, up to this point Firefox was the only usable browser without AI garbage, we don't need another Chrome with useless data-mining slop.
09-16-2024 11:08 AM
I'm glad you are being thoughtful about privacy and user experience (i.e. opt-in instead of opt-out), but I genuinely do not understand the purpose of such thing in a browser.
I've read the referenced blog post and I still don't understand, if it's not aimed to be a core part (which you can see a lot of people are against), why should it be part of Firefox. Why cannot it be an add-on (at best) for interested people?
I don't know if you've published somewhere else what is you destination for doing this.(Link me or tell me if you have one). Because at this point it seems like AI for AI sake.
09-16-2024 11:38 AM
Please do not add AI to Firefox.
AI will not attract new users, nor make Firefox a more enjoyable experience. All it will accomplish is the isolation of existing users, either for privacy reasons, or performance reasons, and a massive sink of money and resources that will ultimately result in zero net benefit.
09-16-2024 12:53 PM
PLEASE NO
09-16-2024 01:10 PM
I would prefer to not have any AI tools in my browser. I have no need for summarizing articles, or a bot to chat with.
09-16-2024 01:22 PM
I don't want any AI here. I've seen enough AI creep to know that "optional AI" is a foot in the door strategy, and then it becomes a non-optional part of the user interface but you "don't have to use it," and then it becomes something you can't opt out of sharing data with, and then there are constant pushes and popups and redirects to use it and replace regular searches with asking AI and on and on. (This isn't even touching on the fact that whenever I've had to use AI it's just. Not good at what it claims to do. Whatever option it's replacing was better, and I have no reason to believe that this time, oh THIS time it's gonna be different we swear.)
If I wanted to be part of this AI bubble I would use chrome and gemini or whatever. The reason I use firefox is because it's NOT part of this kind of trend. It's already so easy to access AI if that is what I choose to do. It's almost unavoidable. What's hard is finding a place that's NOT trying to force me into using it. In my opinion that's what firefox is offering that sets it apart from other browsers.
09-17-2024 08:06 AM
Fyi; Vivaldi has spoken out against using "ai" in their browser. But it's Chromium based.....
09-16-2024 01:39 PM
Please do NOT do this. Firefox has been the one safe place on the internet to shelter from the dangerous misinformation that AI inherently brings. You will lose respect, users, and money from this endeavor, even if it’s an “opt-in” option now. Save yourself the trouble—AI is already on its way out. Don’t hop on a train to nowhere just because it’s trending.
09-16-2024 06:03 PM
Please DO NOT do this. Terrible decision. All around **bleep**ty idea
09-16-2024 07:30 PM
NO. i am so tired of AI being shoved at me by every other corporation. i don't want it on my firefox, this **bleep** is why i left google chrome.
09-16-2024 07:52 PM
Hello, yes, I understand the temptation to utilize AI like many other browsers and companies are doing.
I'm begging you as a user to please not implement it. I have loved everything Firefox has provided for me and others, how it's stood head and shoulders above everyone else in having ethics and a backbone and being user-first.
So to maintain that, I'm asking you to not implement AI at all.
Thank you
09-16-2024 10:33 PM
I don't want AI integrated in the browser, AI comes with so many problems from ethical and environmental standpoints. In addition AI will just make the browser heavier and use more System resources. We need to lower Firefox's resource usage, not increase it with garbage that real and sensible people do not care about.
AI is a trend, we need to work on making Firefox better, not jumping on Trends.
09-16-2024 11:33 PM
Joining the chorus of "no, hell no, this is the most out-of-touch thing you could try" here. It's unbelievable that Mozilla would consider this in the first place. If this gets forced through I'm either finding a way to block my Firefox install from ever updating, or finding a different browser. I don't care that it's optional: I object to it being included in the browser at all.
09-16-2024 11:34 PM
Like, to reiterate here: I finally created a Firefox account purely to object to this, and I hate making accounts for things. That should say a lot.
09-17-2024 06:48 AM
literally same. Despise having to sign in and make accounts to comment on things but like, this sucks so bad I had to
09-18-2024 07:07 PM
Same. I wonder how many of us created accounts to comment on the subject because we all hate genAI/LLMs so much. It’s such a stupid idea and no one at Mozilla seems to listen
09-18-2024 07:20 PM
I did! Watching the comments pour in after I commented there seemed to be a lot of (new user) tags so, a lot of us?
09-21-2024 08:59 PM
Same here, yeah. I've never used mozilla forums or whatever this is before. JUST joined to comment on this absurdity.
09-17-2024 12:47 AM
Please don't.
09-17-2024 04:38 AM
I cancelled my recurring monthly donation over the Privacy Preserving Attribution fiasco. I guess now I will find another browser.
09-17-2024 06:00 AM
Right now, the last thing I would want to see in this web browser is generative AI support. These systems are connected to a widespread power & water consumption that's far greater than what the people consume on their own. And the AI is only capable of processing regurgitating information, which takes the fun out of reading things.
Knock it off. I never wanna see another piece of garbage like this ever again.
09-17-2024 06:46 AM
Please do not fully implement this; no one likes AI "features", and if they do their opinion is not worth the air it took to speak it. As with other company's so-called "helpful" AI "features", this will only fail catastrophically, and does no good whatsoever. AI is not needed! You are actively driving away users from using your service by implementing this at all, even if it's an optional experiment right now.
If Firefox implements this fully I will be deleting it from my computer and mobile device. I'm totally fine with switching to some other search engine if this one starts being just as horrible as any other one.
09-17-2024 06:55 AM
wow I was completely incoherent, but my message is still the same: no AI, or else I fly (as in leave)
09-17-2024 07:16 AM
No!
09-17-2024 09:33 AM
I do not want to add any AI to my browser. I've been using Firefox for over 20 years and love Mozilla but please do not jump on the AI bandwagon. I know it's the new hotness in the tech industry but it's a scam and we don't need it.
09-17-2024 09:35 AM
If "AI" is added to Firefox, I will simply never use the Internet again. It is absolutely polluted with this stuff and is slowly becoming unusable. Please abandon this.
09-17-2024 09:36 AM
Please keep this optional and opt-in. I respect that you want to experiment in this space, but I would personally switch to another browser if it becomes a permanent feature, or one where we're automatically opted in. Just seeing how Google search has declined over the past few months is proof enough to me that AI is a nightmare when it comes to providing accurate, useful information. And AI chatbots have an awful environmental impact that I don't at all feel comfortable contributing to. I really hope Firefox keeps the energy waste piece in mind if/when you consider scaling this experiment up.
09-17-2024 11:43 AM
Don't do the “Show prompts on text select” thing.
We have a context menu. That's where actions on selections go. Don't add another, more intrusive UI; it'll just have to be the subject of a consolidation/cleanup project later.
09-17-2024 01:32 PM
The final nails in the coffin of the last good browser. Never trust anyone in tech; they'll always sell you out.
09-17-2024 02:15 PM
Do not add AI to Firefox
09-17-2024 02:27 PM
NO AI in firefox please!!! DO NOT WANT.
09-17-2024 03:13 PM
Mozilla,
I am a 10 year user of Mozilla Firefox as my primary browser and system admin deploying it to enterprise environments. I loved your browser when it was good when it was bad and in between and there have been a few rough patches literally ;).
I've had a rather rough user experience in 2024 using Firefox on various Linux distro's more so than years previous. Adding features like optional AI when nobody, literally nobody, asked for it instead of focusing on other issues like stability, security, and privacy is a poor decision in my opinion. I understand my opinion is just one tiny stat in your giant pool of users thank you for providing this forum and other methods for feedback. I hope you genuinely track some sentiment metrics for this feature. Please do your due diligence to listen feedback for those willing to give it a try and do not live in an echo chamber of wherever or whomever is pushing AI AI AI.
After 10 years I'm sorry to say Firefox is no longer my main browser and it won't be default on any of my administrated networks. I will be boycotting your product which I payed 0 dollars for until I see some positive change.
-Sent from NOT FIREFOX
09-17-2024 03:18 PM
Please don't. That kind of synthesis algorithm makes the entire internet harder to use, because it becomes necessary to filter out hallucinated content (and too many people assume that the unmarked generated content is real, which in many cases can be outright dangerous).
If you do proceed with this, it would be wise to add a disclaimer and a non-removable watermark onto anything the algorithm spits out, so that it can be easily identified as being machine synthesized. We are already dealing with too great an increase of misinformation coming from other irresponsible AI experiments.
Misinformation coming from people can be traced to a specific source, and that context examined for credibility. Meanwhile, too many people are far too willing to trust what comes out of a machine that doesn't have the ability to understand what it is spitting out. The current trend of "AI" synthesis that many companies are participating in is ill-thought out and irresponsible. Please reconsider participating in this at all.