06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-15-2024 05:51 PM
NO, absolutely not, would never use it, hate the idea of you wasting tons of money and energy and contributing to global energy, water, and climate crises just to fill the internet with more garbage answers to questions that human beings have already answered on their websites that they made with their fully functioning human brains. NO THANK YOU.
09-15-2024 06:08 PM - edited 09-15-2024 06:09 PM
literally NOBODY wants this. anyone who wants ai garbage in their browser is already using chrome or whatever
09-15-2024 06:33 PM - edited 09-15-2024 06:39 PM
Who wants more news about what Artificial Intelligence is doing? For the whole last week, it has been making nearly all SQL servers and users' applications crash. Users are being severely breached by it. This is why my team, who favors Firefox 3.6.9 and UNIX, is against all Oracle Java6<, MS.Net3<, and Python3<. We are not corporations' toys! Stop them from infringing us. Please spread the word, immediately. We are in jeopardy. May the Lord help every single one of us.
09-15-2024 06:32 PM
NO BAD CEO BAD EXECUTIVE AI IS BAD WE DONT LIKE IT ITS DUMB AND **bleep**S UP
09-15-2024 06:36 PM
modern "AI" is designed to vomit out the most likely series of words to continue whatever prompt it is given based on statistics alone as a result it gives answers that are often deceiving at first glance but in truth worthless at best actively harmful at worst, it does this while consuming (read wasting) ridiculous amounts of power, as a result it has no place existing in a web browser (or search engine, but that's unrelated) by default, as a result I am strongly against any "AI" functionality being added in any official capacity
09-15-2024 07:29 PM
A huge no from me, please don't do it.
09-15-2024 07:46 PM
No thank you. Please recognize that people use Firefox explicitly so they don't have to worry about having garbage like this forced on them in chromium browsers.
09-15-2024 08:00 PM
Come on Mozilla
If we are using Firefox it is for better privacy. Not for stupid invasive tools that participate in making our world a worse place
09-15-2024 08:58 PM
I'm sorry, I _really_ don't want an LLM in Firefox. One of the reasons I use Firefox is because I can trust it can preserve my data. Regardless of whether or not the LLM is locally run, I would be paranoid that it would be training on my inputs. I also don't want to waste datacentre processing power on running some remote AI, and I certainly don't want to spend GPU processing power on running a local AI.
Please don't add this feature to the core browser. Don't alter existing Firefox installs. This is a bad idea.
09-15-2024 09:28 PM
Please don't. I use Linux and Mozilla products to avoid AI stuff, not have it in my web browser.
09-15-2024 10:28 PM
Please do not do this. Please God let us have at least one program in our lives that doesn't scrape every single thing we do to feed it into the slop machine of generative AI.
09-15-2024 10:35 PM
Also agree that please don't
09-15-2024 10:42 PM
Hi there. Please don't.
09-15-2024 11:42 PM
Please dont do this. This would be a terrible feature. Please pull away from this AI track.
09-15-2024 11:44 PM
Nope
09-16-2024 12:05 AM
Add my voice to the chorus of NOOOO
Why, though? What is even the point on having ai in our browsers? What purpose could it possibly serve? The more I read about it, the more I become convinced that genAI —at least as it exists today—, it utterly useless, pointless, harmful to the environment, when it’s not outright destroying the livelihoods of thousands of people across the world, often all of those things at the same time. I’ve yet to read a convincing explanation of what is it good for and why do we need it in our daily lives. GenAI seems to exist mostly to make absurdly rich tech people even richer while adding nothing of value to the world. I want nothing to do with it.
09-16-2024 12:13 AM
I'm not interested in this feature, I feel like development time could be better spent elsewhere
09-16-2024 12:43 AM
Not a good idea, will find another non ai browser if you implement ai
09-16-2024 01:24 AM
AI is a destructive force for users, as well as the environment of technological development. It wastes electricity, creating needless greenhouse gas emissions, for the sake of chewing up, digesting, and then defecating the congealed remains of what was once human creation.
Keep it out of Firefox.
09-16-2024 02:09 AM
Please don't. The lack of an environment-burning, content-stealing AI is half the reason I use Mozilla in the first place. I would honestly consider going back to Chrome (or even Edge) if you were to add any sort of AI features.
09-16-2024 02:32 AM
PLEASE DO THIS I BEG YOU DON'T LET TUMBLR WIN
09-16-2024 02:32 AM
**bleep** I FORGOT THIS WAS A REPLY
09-16-2024 02:33 AM
oh it doesn't let me swear. ok. I know this now
09-17-2024 09:43 AM - edited 09-17-2024 09:51 AM
what are you talking about here re: "letting tumblr win" what do the decisions of a unrelated website have to do with firefox adding AI
edit: nvm, turns out you're a immature weirdo, hope you grow up soon and realize it's better to love as much as you can
09-16-2024 02:26 AM
Please do this. I won't use it, I just want the anti-AI people to get mad.
09-16-2024 02:35 AM
please I beg you. I found this from a Tumblr post and I NEED Tumblr to LOSE. I will start actually using your browser instead of having it on my taskbar and telling myself I'm going to switch and then never doing it if you just implement the useless AI button
09-16-2024 08:02 PM
Cringe
09-17-2024 01:36 AM
>found this from tumblr
>"I need tumblr to lose"
cringe, buddy.
09-17-2024 10:49 AM
Firefox, look. The people who want ai implemented aren’t even using your browser. They admit that the ai might MAYBE make them switch. The people who ACTUALLY use your browser are saying no.
Is it really worth it to alienate all your current users for people who MIGHT switch to your browser? Because the people who would come for ai are using the ai of other companies, and the people who DONT want ai are here, right now, making their displeasure known. Don’t lose what you have for the slim possibility that you’ll make back what you lose and than some.
And also, to the guy I’m replying to - if you hate tumblr so much and don’t use Firefox… why are you on tumblr looking at posts about Firefox, man. Go find something you like and enjoy it - it’ll make your life better.
09-17-2024 09:51 PM
So you're willing to drag an entire userbase down only for a website you don't like?
09-16-2024 02:43 AM - last edited on 09-16-2024 08:53 AM by Jon
Nein. No. Ei. Ie. Niet. Do some more No forms come to my mind atm? Not really aside off:
PERKELE SATAANA!
Please don't add any "help" in using AI... It already robs so much of people without asking and doesn't make me want to use Firefox ANYMORE if you add it as well :(( It is a very bad idea.
IF you still wanna add that: Please do pay all of the people who got ripped of their work into these AI programs without their consent :DDDD Which honestly.. would be a fricking expensive thing. You would have to pay kinda every person that post stuff on the internet.
so please. No 🙂 thank you.
09-16-2024 03:31 AM
Why on earth would you do this? I have got myself a mozilla chat ID just to say what a shockingly bad and disappointing decision this is. What would AI possibly add to the Firefox experience? I'm with Firefox because most of the internet has been en**bleep**tified by Google and Microsoft and now AI, please don't add to it. And if you absolutely must for some reason, please make it opt-in.
09-16-2024 04:41 AM - last edited on 09-16-2024 08:52 AM by Jon
no
Please no
the reason I use firefox is to escape the AI and (as much as I can of) tracking bull
09-16-2024 04:53 AM
No please, ai is being stuffed everywhere and some of us want none of it. Please keep it entirely off of Firefox, this is a deal breaker for me
09-16-2024 05:00 AM
I would also add any implementation would greatly harm my trust in the foundation, Wich cannot be fixed by simply "going back"
09-16-2024 05:25 AM
I use Firefox as my primary browser, on personal and work laptops as well as on mobile.
The use of neural networks (it’s not technically AI) as search or answer services is morally deplorable and an environmental blight. Mozilla incorporating this mass misinformation feature is clearly due to cowing to peer pressure and capitalist obsession rather than implementation of a valuable or useful feature.
In other words: Neural Networks suck and are killing the world, and they don’t even do a good job. Stop ruining the only good browser left!!!
And don’t tell me it’s an optional feature. Living on the planet you’re killing isn’t optional.
09-16-2024 06:17 AM
I do not like Generative AI as it is massively understood now and implemented, because its foundation is stolen and unfiltered data for the purpose of optimizing the "confident natural language response".
I accept machine learning or AI for other things, as have existed way before the current wave. ML trained over specific data (obtained legally and morally) for technical purposes is useful. A confident but usually wrong natural language model is the worst of all worlds.
Do us all a favor and reconsider this position.
Will 100% check forks from the community if this goes on.
09-16-2024 06:18 AM
No nonono never never NEVER would I want this. I use firefox exactly because it's the only decent browser, but this would make it just as awful as the rest of them. I don't care about any reassurances that "it doesn't affect the security" or "it's optional", because having it introduced in the first place is already a huge red flag - if we ignore this now like you're basically asking us to, it's only going to lead to more changes where this "service" becomes gradually more obnoxious and exploiting towards the user.
At that point I might as well use any other browser because what benefit is there left in using firefox specifically? You should not forget about prioritizing user experience over insidious tech trends.
09-16-2024 06:32 AM - last edited on 09-16-2024 08:52 AM by Jon
How many people do you think are using Firefox specifically because it is supposed to not be subjected to the **bleep** Google and everyone else has become, and that ai might be part of that? If ai is added to the built in spellchecker I'm going to be slightly pissed.
I don't like the idea of adding ai in at all to Firefox, but if you must, please please please make a toggle that actually works that preserves privacy and functionality for the user. I'm here to avoid ai bull as much as possible.
09-16-2024 06:42 AM - last edited on 09-16-2024 08:51 AM by Jon
I advise AGAINST implementing an AI feature. Guys. C'mon. I know that AI is The Thing and there's a lot of pressure to add it so that you stay current and in with the times, but do not. Stay strong, stay true. Do not add ai. Firefox is known as the browser that doesn't have any bull and doesn't take advantage of its users. That's your reputation.