06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-14-2024 08:12 PM - edited 09-14-2024 08:13 PM
I want to tell you a story of an engineer who started in 2002 and who was a user of Mozilla suite -> Phoenix (from version .5) and later Firebird. I remember all the renaming that took place and was always on the Mozilla company side.
Unfortunately, that's not true anymore. The latter course changes made me switch the default browser I advertised for all my non-tech friends for the last two decades. I cannot recommend Firefox anymore; it keeps adopting the worst possible approach from case to case.
Recently, I was shocked to see the amount of changes I need to implement to any new FF installation:
"Things to disable on ff:
dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled set false
browser.shopping.experience2023* set false
extensions.pocket.enabled set to false
browser.preferences.moreFromMozilla set to false
browser.ml.*
*weather*"
The LLM **bleep** was the last straw. I migrated to Librewolf yesterday. Knowing the Mozilla CEO's position, I do not even ask Mozilla for changes — they effectively resist the arguments and state that they do precisely what their userbase want (which is false, especially taking into account the amount of responses in this thread) - I'm asking every user of the Firefox to migrate! Librewolf, Fennec, Waterfox, name it! There are a lot of good offsprings with a policy Mozilla adhered to 20 years ago.
P.s.: Personally me's waiting for maturing of servo/verso!
09-14-2024 08:15 PM
please don't, firefox is unique with its lack of ai integration and i specifically avoid other browsers and use firefox for a number of reasons, but a big one is because ai is famously unhealthy for my privacy and data protection. firefox adding ai, even optional, would make me consider finding another browser.
09-14-2024 08:20 PM
NO. AI already wastes so much water and power and has been shoved down our throats enough we do not need another useless AI feature that no one wants, LEAST of all from Firefox, the one thing on the internet I feel like I can trust
09-14-2024 08:20 PM
Hey
Don't **bleep**ing do that
09-14-2024 08:22 PM
If you integrate this I will not be using the browser ever again. From the hoards of copyrighted material used to train AI to the misinformation to the privacy violations, I love that AI doesn't follow me to this browser. I have dropped a number of other services due to AI being implemented so I won't hesitate to do the same for Firefox.
DO NOT implement AI.
09-14-2024 08:22 PM
No. Please don't do this. No one wants it and anyone in your meetings who is telling you people do are lying to you. Keep AI off firefox.
09-14-2024 08:25 PM
What the **bleep**? Don't do this. Seriously. Firefox is one of the last respectable browsers, don't trash it. Becoming a laughing stock and throwing your reputation in the trash isn't worth whatever you guys are getting out of this.
09-14-2024 08:29 PM - edited 09-14-2024 08:43 PM
Firefox integrating AI, which is not only guaranteed to be trained on unethical sources, and likely to compromise what little privacy we have these days, but will also consume more power and water than a small town, is so incredibly unethical and against what Firefox claims to be, that I will be looking for alternative browsers.
I have zero interest in using AI, and I want nothing to do with it. I'm downright concerned that you, of all people, are willing to consider it.
09-14-2024 08:30 PM
Words cannot express how genuinely uninterested the average browser user is in AI at best. Using generative AI is against everything Firefox is supposed to stand for in terms of privacy and unobtrusive browsing- One of the main reasons I use Firefox is because it is one of the only browsers left without this garbage. Please reconsider adding this pointless feature that scrapes data and regurgitates the scraps back at you.
09-14-2024 08:30 PM
Please no AI please
09-14-2024 08:30 PM
No, please do not add this ai to firefox
09-14-2024 08:30 PM
if this is done, firefox will be no better than google. don't you **bleep**ing dare. also what's the point when your users will make an extension to delete it ten minutes after launch. don't. even. **bleep**ing. think. about. it. DON'T.
09-14-2024 08:32 PM
AI Integration in other products has been a disaster, especially for search engines - AI engines hallucinate information and are designed to prevent users from visiting sites with further information. I am strongly against the use of neural network integration as a part of any search engines, as it goes against the core concept of using a search engine (as in, using it as a directory for other websites). Please do not integrate generative AI/Neural networking into Mozilla. You will lose the swathe of customers who are using your engine specifically because it doesn't have any AI/Neural networking features.
09-15-2024 09:46 AM
This!! "AI" features are a race to the bottom for peoples' minds. Things being quicker is not worth anything if the quick results are inaccurate or spreading misinformation.
09-14-2024 08:32 PM
Please don't.
09-14-2024 08:40 PM
no thank you.
09-14-2024 08:44 PM
no, please god no, ill switch browsers if i ever have to deal with another stupid piece of ai bull**bleep** im so serious
09-14-2024 08:45 PM
Please don't implement this, it's not worth the resources it uses or the time you'd have to dedicate to it.
09-14-2024 08:31 PM
No thank you! The reason I use Firefox is to avoid the ai 😄
09-14-2024 08:47 PM
No.
AI is a scourge, both to human intellect and to the environment. Don't lower yourself by forcing it on others- WE DO NOT WANT AI.
09-14-2024 08:49 PM
I've been using firefox for a long time now, basically since high school (I'm now a college graduate). Top of my to-do list when setting up any device is installing firefox and getting it all setup instead of whatever web browser comes default with the device. I can safely say that if AI is implemented into the browser I will be uninstalling firefox from all of my devices and simply... finding something else.
Please do not do this
09-14-2024 08:58 PM
Hell no. generative AI is expensive, terrible for the environment, and doesn't even work well and mainly produces garbage and i cannot believe you are even trying to add it. Stop while you still can before you piss off your userbase.
09-14-2024 09:04 PM
Absolutely No Thank You
09-14-2024 09:07 PM
No. It's a terrible idea, and FireFox not implementing it like other browsers is the reason why I still use it.
09-14-2024 09:12 PM
Absolutely do NOT add an AI feature. God. Do you want to stay the better browser in a world of lacking security? Don't integrate a useless feature that'll be out of sight out of mind in another 5 years. Firefox is fine as it is.
09-14-2024 09:18 PM
Do not waste time or money on this. You will not be able to meaningfully stand out or compete at scale with your current funding compared to similar products. You can't afford to join them, so go back to beating them and leave your sub-para data-grab off this service.
09-14-2024 09:19 PM
Hi! Loyal Firefox User Here. I will actually just as easily drop this goddamn browser as fast and desecrate its name as soon as any AI bull**bleep** is integrated officially. I can and I will. Most of us will. If the higher ups don't listen to the users, it will become reality. 🙂
09-14-2024 09:18 PM
Please don't.
09-14-2024 09:18 PM
Please don't do this. I literally only use Firefox because it doesn't integrate AI. If you guys are doing this I might as well just switch to Opera or literally any other browser that uses AI
09-14-2024 09:27 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOT. i use firefox because you do things much better than any other browser, respect our privacy, and actively work against the idiocy big tech companies are doing nowadays. do not add ai to this perfectly fine browser. if this becomes permanent i will switch instantly.
09-14-2024 09:31 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOT. i will switch browsers if ai is implemented.
09-14-2024 09:32 PM
no thanks, ai is hot garbage.
09-14-2024 09:38 PM
OH GOD NO
09-14-2024 09:40 PM
No <-Bold for intensity, one of the big things that brought me back to Firefox was the freedom away from AI and Crypto, if either of those ever get forced into my experience I would have to just uninstall and find a different browser
09-14-2024 09:52 PM
dear god no
09-14-2024 09:54 PM
For the love of god DO NOT! Ai is making everything worse by the second. The browser is just fine without it and it will not add anything good to the site. so simply just drop it and move on.
09-14-2024 09:57 PM
I have used Firefox for over a decade. If this feature becomes a permanent addition I will be uninstalling Firefox from all my devices and start recommending all my contacts to do the same
09-14-2024 10:11 PM
Same!
09-14-2024 09:58 PM
Please no. Anything but this.
09-14-2024 09:59 PM
Please please do not do this. I am so sick of AI invading every aspect of my daily life. AI steals content without consent and uses a crazy amount of resources to produce subpar results. I thought Firefox was better than this. I'm shocked it's even being considered. This would definitely negatively effect my opinions of this product, which is a shame considering the amazing work you do. Please keep AI out of Firefox