Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[goldenbonnies]

Please, god, NO. NO NO NO. I will stop using Firefox and switch to some underground browser with less than a hundred users over this. DO NOT ADD AI. NOBODY WANTS AI. STOP IT.

[Troyseph]

This would convince me to leave Firefox

[Soudaiya]

Not interested,  the Ai I've seen from other browsers is chock full of incorrect information and makes it much harder to find what I'm actually looking for.

[amoroso]

I wouldn't personally use AI features at all. And, given the resources of Mozilla, such features couldn't compete with those of tech giants anyway. I'd prefer Mozilla to focus its limited resources on something that has a major positive impact on everyday use like Firefox performance, especially on Linux.

NOT having AI features would actually be a unique differentiator and cost much less.

[KainTheMando]

AI has proven to have a massively negative environmental impact. Additionally, it relies entirely on stolen material scraped without consent and frequently provides incorrect and even dangerous information. Firefox would be better served WITHOUT AI, and the incorporation of AI would dramatically reduce my usage of the browser. I like Firefox BECAUSE it doesn't have AI incorporated into it.

[Luckless]

If this goes through to the stable branch I'll be moving to a fork or a new browser altogether. Aside from the ethical concerns of AI and the fact of hallucinations causing dangerous misinformation. You are adding a new attack surface to the entire userbases devices for the "benefit" of an comparably tiny portion of users. It doesn't matter that it is currently disabled by default, it could be triggered by bad actors, accidentally turned on through an automatic update, or one of these terrible AI companies might have a data breach or sell the data themselves. This is a horrendous idea that goes against your userbases values, and the responses by employees in this thread are quite disappointing.

[SweetSageTea]

I'd really rather you not, thank you. A lot of people are morally opposed to AI being used in most any capacity. It's a passing trend and your user base would really appreciate if you didn't hop on the bandwagon on this one.

Thanks

[Vanastar]

I don't want AI added to the experience of using Firefox. I won't use it. It's unnecessary.

And I especially don't want it if it uses any data I input as training, or scrapes that data to pass on to third parties.

[Bob5]

Please don't. There's already way too much AI going around which is useless and an ecological nightmare and I don't want to use it, have it, be forced to use it or persuaded to see if I might just want to try it out coz maybe I might like it. The faster (generative) AI dies, the better.

[wutongtaiwan]

Is AI really that scary, it was bombarded with mailboxes yesterday and today

[Mowinckel107]

The most cited researcher in the world compares large language models to nuclear weapons and global pandemics.

Dear god stop. Now. It is energy hungry unethical behavior to use dangerous and useless tools

[C_C_]

Aside from all the issues with genAI i'm certain others have already mentioned, as well as the fact that this is entirely unasked for, I must ask: what value, exactly, is this supposed to bring? What great use do we have for an integrated AI feature that we can't easily get, if we really need it, from elsewhere? I mean, AI doesn't work as a search engine. A lot of email services and other platforms already have integrated AI to summarise things and other such tasks, if needed. Who are these supposed users who intensely need AI so often and so much and for so many things (that don't already have AI) that it would benefit them to have it right on the browser, and what do they do?

And are we certain these people are not imaginary?

[NetCat]

Absolutely the f- not.
This adds zero value to your product and guarantees I will switch away from it. As C_C_ said, there's no use for it. As Luckless says, its a new attack surface with the bonus features of hallucinating information and a severe ethical issue to go with! Wretched idea.

[2mucheffort]

No need to add ai. it's useless at best, harmful at worst and most of the time just creepy. Adding AI will make me less likely to keep using Firefox. No thanks.

[Marjolica]

I note that this has now been added as an (unticked) option in Firerfox 130.

You invite me to try it. I won't as I am not aware of any use case where it would be useful to me.

All LLMs are plagiarist, they steal other peoples intellectual property. They also produce bull**bleep** instead of useful answers - plausible sentences that may or may not be true. 

I am not against all Machine Learning. I find the local language translation feature you have recently added useful, but I have already had block LLM so-called summaries in Google and DuckDuckGo search. as they have also gone down this rabbit hole.

They also consume incredible quantities of energy, water to run and to training and the resources need to make the hardware they run on. They are the anti-solution to the real problems we have as a species that is trashing our planet.

I would much rather Mozilla concentrate on giving users, such as myself,  what they want, which is a fast, efficient browser that respects user privacy, rather than spending resources on the total deadend that is LLMs.

[ellie23]

please no christ maybe my favourite thing about firefox is that it’s the one place that isn’t trying to shove ai down my throat don’t take that away if you want to ruin the climate more just set some tyres on fire at hq or something

[ellie23]

literally made a goddamn account to tell you how much i don’t want ai in firefox it makes the user experience worse it scrapes data people didn’t consent to give and it wastes water and energy everybody loses. bad choice for a browser a lot of people (including me) use bc they feel it’s more ethical/transparent than the alternatives 

[Jarissa]

I would very much like to be able to opt out of all AI connections before they have a nanosecond's chance of accessing my work. Or of using me as an excuse for accessing others' work.

[Mowinckel107]

The most cited researcher in the world compared LLM with nuclear war and pandemics.

Please for **bleep**s sake stop.

It is a unethical energy hungry dangerous tool that solves no problem.

Stop

Stop

Stop

[Little-Creecher]

Please don't make this a thing or even an optional thing! This kind of AI hurts creators of all kinds, wastes power, is horrible for the environment, and often produces a homunculus of false information that does no good to the world. Please don't make this a thing you are literally the only browser left that I trust!!!!

[sjokofelix]

please don't use AI. I don't want this in my browser even if its a feature that can be turned off. AI is ruining everything I love and care about, it's sickening to see it implemented everywhere now.

[entropy]

God no please no. Firefox is beloved because it respects users privacy. AI for now is pretty much useless besides scraping users data. Fckn get misinformation quicker button stealing from fanfic writers from ao3

[siyu]

Please do not add AI (statistical software/language model) functionality to Firefox. Firefox is open source; the involvement of AI companies are antithetical to this. Furthermore, the environmental impacts (power and water usage) of the computers used to run AI are unforgivable. AI services are unethical. Resist theft by corporations and en**bleep**tification! Do not add AI services!

[Ozzlerrrr]

Good lord, no, I would switch browsers if this happened

[SDeBrule]

Hello,

Please don't spend time integrating ai into Firefox that could be spent on other projects. AI generation is often factually incorrect and not helpful, and uses a crazy amount of resources to spit out that wrong answer. Adding ai to Firefox, even in a smalll and optional way, actually makes me less likely to use the browser as I start to worry what data you're using and from where.

[Katharta]

Knock it off Mozilla, nobody wants this crap in Firefox. Stop trying to turn your browser into Chrome. It's gone on far too long. If I want to use Chrome, I will use Chrome. Or any other browser besides Firefox. Focus on your strengths or the community will take matters into their own hands, which has already begun with recent forks like Floorp.

[thecatsmau]

Recently, I was forced to open Edge because a government website refused to work on anything else. It was the worst browsing experience I've had in years, and that was mostly because of Microsoft trying to integrate Copilot into every interaction to "help" me. Please don't follow this en**bleep**tification trend. Even ignoring whatever ethical and environmental issues almost certainly plague the models these services are built on, it seems like a terrible idea just from a user experience perspective.

[BurdNerd]

Please do not. "AI" as it exists now is a serious problem and not good. Do not go the way of Chrome and Google, I beg of you.

[BurdNerd]

You can literally count how many new profiles were made to tell you "please no" to determine actual interest (or more accurately, DISinterest) there is in having AI in any version of Firefox.

[Vi3D]

AI can go to hell

[fukawi2]

Please don't. I need a browser. It needs to render HTML and CSS, execute JavaScript, and maybe some nice little extras like bookmarks etc. The last thing I want or need in my browser is "AI". I want the product to excel at the basics, not be jammed packed with excessive (read: unnecessary) misfeatures.

If you really want Firefox to have AI, make it as an add-on that the few people who do want it can install, instead of jamming it down our throats in the core product.

[JoOoOoOoL]

For the love of god and all that we cherish, please just let it lie! This helps no one!

[tripped]

Absolutely not

[arcaneartisan]

Do not. Bad. We really don't need or want this. Please can we have a normal web browser....

[kiwidylan]

no!!!!!!! please no!!!!!!

[Fockyourrules]

I will DUMP Firefox like a pile of diseased manure the SECOND it starts implementing ANY AI. AI is the reason I refuse to use Chrome and similar garbage.

[Andasmile]

Please don't implement AI. It's not needed.

[GamergalDS]

We as a community. Do not want this. Thank you. You are making access to useless misinformation all the more convenient when we are literally. in. the solution. a normal web browser. Where you can look things up. NORMALLY. without being lied to by a useless machine.

[philbetts]

I have absolutely no desire to use AI in my browser other than the most targeted circumstances (E.g. translations). The underlying technology is a disaster for the environment, unreliable, and largely unethical. I want my browser to be quick, resource light and privacy focused. That's what I use Firefox for.

[Alzzarla]

My apologies to all Mozilla employees in community management that are forced to be the ones to handle this backlash, backlash that they are probably aware is warranted (for whatever smug, greedy gits responsible for this decision).

There is NOTHING to be gained from adding machine learning to Firefox for users, or even developers. But it brings gullible investors, so it's unfortunately gonna happen... so I'll be changing browsers when that happens.