Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[Bobguthrie]

As a pro media artist, whereas AI is creating chaos therein, I would politely suggest "no".

Really, read the room before suggesting such an asinine move. Google Image search is already an useless tool with AI replacing actual imagery, why kneecap Firefox next?.

[no_ai_in_ffox]

Don't want AI in my browser. It's destroying the environment, and haven't you ever heard of AI winter? You could be making the browser more memory efficient, faster, more customizable, more accessible, more protective of user privacy... instead you're chasing fads. Enough. No. Nobody wants this.

[sotosendocadu]

Please, DON'T!

Thank you

[KhalidD]

Hey! I am really excited to have AI integrated into Firefox! The only thing i feel that is missing is having the website the user is on as context for the prompt.

Amazing Work!

[EcoHound]

No.

Do not.

It's a terrible idea because it is nothing but an extremely resource heavy plagiarism machine that's not even good at plagiarism because of all the wrong answers it gives and has already made finding accurate information online far more difficult ("How many 'r's in Strawberry" anyone?)

[anonymous__user]

There are two (2) "r"s in "strawberry" 🙃

[Druu]

ABSOLUTELY NOT, no way. I'll never touch your products again if you implement AI features.

[jlw]

I do not want generative AI in Firefox. I see no benefits to a plagiarism lying machine.

[rdgrpm]

**bleep** no, good God please do not. **bleep**ing hell.

[peoplenotprofit]

This is terrible and irresponsible. No one who chooses to use Firefox wants these features. 😖

[leVWM]

No, Thanks.

[anonymous__user]

Mozilla's chronic inability to focus on actual pressing issues, feature requests, bug fixes, performance improvements etc. while instead misdirecting resources to bullsh1t projects like this is why Firefox is going downhill.

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we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts

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LMA-fvckin-O, you are not. If you actually were, we wouldn't be here in the first place.
I'm under no delusion that anything that anyone says in this thread will do anything; it's just a PR move for Mozilla to proclaim "we listen to our community," and it's apparent that this "AI" bullsh1t is going to be permanently implemented into future releases regardless of how many people object.
There is nothing that anyone can say here that will get Mozilla to stop with this "AI" bullsh1t while funneling all their money to the executives who don't do jack sh1t but lead it further into collapse while taking massive paychecks. I still think it is worth it for everyone taking the time here to hurl some sh1t at Mozilla for their complete dysfunction - it truly deserves it.

Firefox is falling to the very ensh1ttification affecting other browser(s) and products that users were using it to avoid.
I can only hope now that the Ladybird browser project takes off, and that we will have a more independent, user-respecting browser experience not ran by a totally dysfunctional corporation that egregiously mishandles its already-limited resources by creating "AI" nonsense that no one wanted.

[yayroos]

Servo browser project also looking fairly promising, if we're looking for new players to save us this nonsense

[darkrai]

Please, for the love of everything, do not do this nor implement any "A.I." Features into firefox. They are just overall so bad, super high power and water consumption, no real benefits, and the models are getting worse. Firefox is the one browser I, and many others, think of as the last bastion before greedy mega corporations. You don't have to follow every new trend, especially if it means angering most of your userbase.

[nwloka]

Thanks for asking for feedback.

This seems mind-blowingly tone-deaf given your user base. Ideally, stay clear until the obvious ethical and legal concerns with LLMs  have been sorted out. Less ideal, but still potentially acceptable, release as an extension (though it will still leave the "taint" of you opting to support a hype that many feel is antithetical to the principles of your organisation).

[oversquash]

What is wrong with you? Have you lost your minds?

[doertedev]

I suspect there will be browser wars that include search engines within - but google showed us that the en**bleep**tifcation of search results gets accelerated, not improved, by AI. I encourage Mozilla as an org and it's trustworthy AI campaign. But a box with AI chatbots to select seems like you exchanged your product team with a nine year old or, in fact, let an AI **bleep**post your requirements. What a downer. I expected better of you.

[Nemo2342]

Absolutely not. Don't need, don't want it, and I will look for another browser if this makes it into the main branch.

[Lurks-no-More]

No, we don't want any AI services in Firefox. The current LLMs do not have any actual use cases, are environmentally wasteful, and ethically bankrupt due to the way they are trained. DO NOT add AI to Firefox. It would be the opposite of improving Firefox. DO NOT DO THIS.

[shom]

Hello, Firefox team! I'm a big fan of your work. What Firefox represents as far as protecting privacy on the web and upholding open web standards is critical. Local-only "AI"/Language models are a great way of bringing new technological advances and showing a path forward for embracing technology without surrendering privacy, and I applaud your work in that area.

However, integrating large language models that are proprietary and also have been built by violating rights and licenses and require user data to be shipped off device, does not conform to the stated mission of Mozilla around privacy and user rights. Perhaps Mozilla can consider offering some of this functionality as extensions, as opposed to integrating them into the core browser.

The battle of market share cannot be won by ceding the moral high ground.

[doodlemancy]

Better yet-- perhaps the people who actually want these features can simply ask their magical totally real superintelligence to build an extension for them, and save Mozilla the trouble. I hear AI is really good at programming. (the link is a PDF sorry LOL)

[SoliTheFox]

So can you not press anything and have no feature enabled on your browser. Dunno, seems really easy for me.

[nope1]

what reason could mozilla possibly have to believe anyone who's installing firefox in the year 2024 is even remotely interested in AI. **bleep**ing embarrassing.

[nope1]

speaking of embarrassing, i feel it necessary to point out that the "bleep" was added by the site. understandable to not want profanity in a technical discussion but i would've much preferred a warning to having my comment rendered in the voice of a 5-year-old

[gay_apostasy]

you act as if ai was a service when it is everything but. are you going to add cryptomining to the browsers next? what a joke. be ashamed of even considering to add this. if you want to improve Firefox, get rid of the advertisements and the "anonymous" *wink wink* tracking.

[PseudoNym2112]

Get rid of the advertisements? But that would put the librewolf team out of work!

[GoodGirlGang]

Keep this schlock out of your browser or I'm going back to vivaldi, because I liked that more but it started shoving AI garbage into its function and UI so I jumped back over to your browser.  Cut the crap and accept your losses on whatever bull**bleep** you invested into AI, the entire goddamn field's been poisoned by the generative AI sewage and its proximity to NFT bull**bleep** didn't help its cause either

[littlepolygon]

No.

[omlt]

How about : WHAT. THE. F.?

No. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Qcollective]

For a very long time I've been waiting now to have more languages added to the built-in translator. You know, an actually useful feature in a webbrowser. But no, that remains 'beta' with only a handful of languages, and we get ... this nonsense.

[bhofmann]

If you insist on going this route, please make AI features optional and off by default. You can prompt users to switch it on on the upgrade page. Track usage and see how many users want it. I wager most of us don't just want a different Chrome browser; we want a leader in privacy and security that gets out of the way of us accessing the sites and applications we want to use.

[kellybee]

Can not stress enough how much I, and so many others, do NOT want this. I love that Mozilla is AI free right now. I will stop using Mozilla if AI is implemented. Please rethink this.

[Memenaar]

I love Firefox. I've used Firefox exclusively on all my devices for a long, long time now. I signed up and registered here to say that if you start filling it with this crap, I will change browsers.

[nothingxs]

hi!

please stop this. as soon as possible. the sooner the better. no one wants this.

no one wants this.

[Slowcar]

I don't want "Ai" in my browser

[JoakimH]

Please make this an optional extension. Let your users show you how much they value the feature by opting in to it manually.

For myself I'd like to see some leadership in privacy from Mozilla. This is the opposite as it endorses the continuous collection of data from web users even if Mozilla isn't directly doing it.

[PseudoNym2112]

Mozilla will NOT lead in privacy. Thank God there are responsible adults over on the librewolf team

[Falme]

Adding AI to the Mozilla project will cause most users of Mozilla (Firefox, Thunderbird, and others) to abandon the products at an alarming rate. No one wants AI integrated into Mozilla's offerings because it is not their intended purpose. If someone wishes to use AI, they should do so outside of Mozilla; I personally do not want this, and nobody else wants it either. It is simply unnecessary processing garbage.

[firefly]

PLEASE NO. No integrations. They are external services that are NOT needed to build a web browser, like Pocket. Also, if some kind of elevated permissions are to be expected for these sidebar chatbots, an additional NO from me.

[WhatzitTuuyah]

no, no absolutely not, no, turn the HELL around. There is nothing meaningful to be gained by implementing generative AI or LLM technology into Firefox. We do not want it, remove the feature and make it an extension if you really, really, REALLY want users to be adding it. We know what this is, and we don't want it. No amount of """explaining""" what this feature is or does is going to make anyone change their minds. The hype train came and went, we've all seen exactly how this technology works, and we know what its disadvantages are. Get this out of Firefox and bleach the code it touched. Maybe spit in the eye of whoever paid you to push this nightmare technology on us as if we're easy marks.

Genuinely insulting that this was even considered. The fact that this has been implemented in ANY version of Firefox at ALL is a huge blow to the trust the userbase holds in your product. I think the backlash here is obvious and speaks for itself. This is massively disappointing. You should very much know better.