Slim down Firefox - remove Pocket and have it as a pre-installed extension

[Gustav]

A less complex product will have less bugs.

The core of Firefox should only be the needed functionality to browse the web.

Additions that are built in like Pocket add additional code.

I my idea is that Firefox should split Pocket out from the Firefox executable and have it as an pre-installed extension which can be disabled by users or even removed if they do not want to have have it in their installation.

[SaturnV]

'In Review' is very likely one of the tools used for kicking the can down the road i.e. delaying the need to do anything useful, in the expectation that the peasantry (we, the users) will get tired of waiting and give up.

[2mustange]

@SaturnV, Yeah you are likely right on that one. I think the best thing is to continue the discussion and continue to ask questions

[Horus_Sirius]

It doesn't have to be missing completely; you could add it as a system extension "more from Mozilla" before it disappears completely.

[jluc]

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/tab-groups-community/ says « You asked, we built it: Firefox tab groups are here » and explains « ... in March 2022, a request for tab groups appeared. » + « Tab groups have long been the most requested idea on Mozilla Connect – our community platform – and thanks to thousands of votes, comments and passionate feedback, it’s finally here. 🎉 »

AMOF, 4,500 people had asked for tabs groups when the feature was released.

This "remove pocket" issue only has 1137 thumbs up, that's 4 times less. Maybe it'll take 4 times longer to reach release... si maybe in 2034.

[JonesBones]

Looks like this one can be finally closed 🙂

[SaturnV]

"Looks like this one can be finally closed 🙂"

Not so fast, Batman!  From the webpage in the link you provided, there is this:

"Why is Pocket shutting down?  Pocket has helped millions save articles and discover stories worth reading. But the way people use the web has evolved, so we’re channeling our resources into projects that better match their browsing habits and online needs."

Mozilla are "... channeling our resources into projects that better match their browsing habits and online needs."  I don't recall anyone asking for the tat that is Pockets, but Mozilla forcibly threw it at us anyway.  The quote above sounds like we will, again, have something else levered into the fabric of Firefox.  Something we haven't asked for and don't want, and will probably be asked to pay for .  Anyone want to take bets?  🥴

[2mustange]

@Gustav Likely not what you were wanting (A product that is just being sunset completely) But at least this should remove the Pocket dependency in Firefox! 

@Jon this would be considered "In Development" or "Delivered" since its going out in the next release right? 

[Jon]

@2mustange Yea I've been thinking about a potential status update here...and what makes the most sense with the product being sunset.

[Gustav]

@Jon 

Pocket was  an example of the root circumstance. 

The trend to bolt on everything and the kitchen sink to programs that don't really need all the extra cruft. 

Adding options as extensions that can be removed, thereby removing the code that is loaded, is the way forward, I think. 

Let Firefox be true to its core function, a web browser unencumbered with additional code that some project manager thinks is the best thing since sliced bread. Instead put it in an extension that is installed as default with the browser and then it is up to each user to uninstall it if they do not use it.

So my suggestion would be to change the topic from "Slim down Firefox - remove Pocket and have it as a pre-installed extension" to "Slim down Firefox - remove not core functionality and have it as a pre-installed extension"

And then perhaps change status to "In development"