06-21-2024
11:55 AM
- last edited on
10-18-2024
02:19 PM
by
Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-08-2024 05:09 PM
Absolutely not. Firefox is in a good spot because of Google's BS and we don't want that squandered by an intrusive Plagiarism Machine. Knock it off.
09-08-2024 05:12 PM
Hell no.
No one actually wants this.
AI isn't actually AI, it isn't even close to AI, and it's goddamned useless. Rest assured that if there is a way to turn it off, I will, but it's better for everyone if you never turn it on in the first place.
09-08-2024 05:12 PM
I'll make it simple. The moment I see that in my Firefox browser, I'm deleting it forever. We do NOT want AI "embedded" in our apps. We don't want the feature installed by default. And we most certainly do NOT approve of our lives being captured for your spicy lying machine.
09-08-2024 05:14 PM
If AI is added to Firefox, I will stop using Firefox.
09-08-2024 05:15 PM
Please do not contribute to the normalizing of AI "services". These things are unreliable, even dangerous. The companies behind it are deeply unserious and irresponsible. There is every indication that "AI services" is the latest scam-ecology-disguised-as-technology, similar to NFTs and cryptocurrency.
How about going back to basics and giving us a more robust browser experience?
09-08-2024 05:16 PM
Thanks, I hate it. Please get rid of the AI nonsense.
09-08-2024 05:16 PM
Hello, the use of the AI tech in Firefox is something I am strongly against. Generative AI whether it be for writing or art is largely made off of stolen work & is used far too often to try to replace humans & undercut their livelihoods. I am strongly against Mozilla implementing AI as part of their platform, & a continued effort to do so will result in me looking to other companies for my browser & email services.
09-08-2024 05:18 PM
I neither want nor need plagiarism machine 4.0 integrated into my web browser.
09-08-2024 05:21 PM
I have zero interest in generative “AI” - which is to say, mostly plagiarism and dumbing down - in my browser. This should be removed from the main browser code.
09-08-2024 05:22 PM
If you want to improve Firefox don't add this feature.
09-08-2024 05:24 PM
This feature is not needed and is a waste of resources that could have been used else where. LLM are not smart nor useful. focus in privacy features, not things in themselves are a horrible invasion of privacy.
09-08-2024 05:29 PM
Absolutely no thanks.
09-08-2024 05:32 PM
Please don't clog Firefox up with AI garbage. So many companies are doing this and it adds zero utility and negative appeal to the experience.
09-08-2024 05:34 PM
No no no no no a million times no.
Sick to death of the tech industry insisting on shoving this crap into everything, and being SHOCKED when it turns out to be awful.
09-08-2024 05:36 PM
Please don't.
09-08-2024 05:45 PM
Hi. I hate this! AI has been proven to have massive negative environmental impact, and including it in Firefox only contributes to that problem. AI as a whole currently has huge moral, legal, and logistical issues that make no sense to introduce into an otherwise stable, trustworthy browser.
I use Firefox to get away from things like this. Claiming to fight for a "healthier internet" and then integrating things that actively make the internet (and the planet!) is extremely disappointing to me as a long-time user.
09-08-2024 05:47 PM
Nooooooope.
09-08-2024 05:52 PM
Another NO vote. Dump this AI stuff.
09-08-2024 05:59 PM
god please don't
09-08-2024 05:59 PM
No one wants this **bleep**. Stop. Just don’t.
09-08-2024 06:01 PM
I have just heard of this idea.
No, thank you. There are too many questions about usefulness, safety, and copyright infringement
09-08-2024 06:04 PM
Please do not do this. I will not continue to use Firefox if you do this.
09-08-2024 06:06 PM
NO thanks
we don´t need AI
we just need a good browser that doesn't add " allow websites to perform privacy-preserving ad measurement"by default without even letting us know....
after 20 years of loyalty (or even more considering I was always a Netscape fan)
You broke it... 😞
09-08-2024 06:11 PM
LLMs are unethical in every way (stealing work from writers, journalists, artists; requires lots of data resources contributing to climate change) and don't even do anything useful.
No AI. No LLMs.
09-08-2024 06:12 PM
Oh hell no! Please let the world have just this one major web browser untainted by fake AI garbage.
09-08-2024 06:15 PM
This seems like it goes counter to what Mozilla should stand for and I personally do not want anything to do with this. I would also support a fork that removes these features and commits to never adding them.
09-08-2024 06:15 PM
No. Knock it off.
09-08-2024 06:17 PM
More about:mozilla, less AI please.
09-08-2024 06:20 PM
I'm not alone in wondering why Firefox is involved with AI. Integration with AI is not a feature the users expected. It seems unlikely it is a feature the users asked for. It took effort. What we want in a browser is support for web standards, privacy by default, and optional extensibility. We want boring. We want few surprises.
09-08-2024 06:21 PM
Generative AI is environmentally disastrous, ethically indefensible (it relies on stolen materials for training), and worse-than-useless, due to the high number of hallucinations and incoherent results.
I chose to default to Firefox because of all the stupid unethical bloatware built into Chrome and Edge. Why on Earth to you want to follow them off that cliff?
09-08-2024 06:30 PM
What is wrong with this company? No, no, no,no. Remove it, blow it up and can the executives that think this is a good idea.
09-08-2024 06:31 PM
No AI. It isn't anywhere close to ethical in its training, and isn't a function that will be helpful.
09-08-2024 06:36 PM
Please don't add AI to Firefox.
09-08-2024 06:38 PM
TL;DR: Promote non-web centric stuff as extensions instead of polluting preferences
Just use local stuff for things that are helpful and making a great browser private and open: noise cancelling, better speech and video compression, webcam background blurring, text translations, text to speech, missing alt-text generation, speech to text, OCR and the previous combined with translations, including realtime media and RTC bidirectional subtitles and speech dubbing.
However, LLMs as mentioned are wasteful, questionable regarding rights and too broad. Regarding Llamafile, whichever model includes (hopefully something that makes sense) is still slightly tolerable for local-only use but without giving feature focus to make it useful for a browser. Consider suggesting an extension instead for LLM stuff, even for Llamafile, as far as I know there is no web standards that require to cover something with a general purpose LLM chatbot that is worth beyond a marketing trend.
09-08-2024 06:41 PM - edited 09-08-2024 06:42 PM
Honestly I'd rather dump mozilla for a browser that doesn't use AI.
09-08-2024 06:46 PM
I don't think it's a feature worth having development time allocated to it.
09-08-2024 06:49 PM
No and hell no.
No.
09-08-2024 06:51 PM
NO THANK YOU, PLEASE.
09-08-2024 07:03 PM
Whatever happened to "the most privacy-oriented browser"? You are sinking your reputation by adding garbage to be more accessible. Nobody in their right mind wants this.
09-08-2024 07:12 PM
Generative AIs (large language models) are notoriously buggy and generally not fit for purpose. There's no real reason to add it to a web browser. I understand you want to be on the cutting edge and not be left behind, but consider this: many of the answers Generative AI gives are incorrect. To the extent in can create fiction or pictures on purpose, it largely plagiarize for other people.
There's no point in hitching your wagon to this horse. Sure, I get it. It's a nightly build. Users like myself can turn it off. But here's the thing: there's no need to dedicate resources to it right now. None. The technology just isn't there yet. OpenAI is mostly lying about their product's capabilities and downplaying the harm it's doing. You can always come back to it if (not when, because it's uncertain these technologies will get there) it generative AI starts giving out correct answers, uses less power, and stops plagiarizing.