Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[HorseCage]

I don't want or need access to a garbage, plagiarising, environmentally disastrous fad

[prismatic]

I have been using Firefox since it first started and AI integration is both the thing that would philosophically stop me using it and recommending it to other people. There is some place for the tools that AI brings to this world such as some proven uses in medicine but ChatGPT is not one of them - it's also based on theft to enrich people already rich and it's really, really bad for the environment, too.

I am very disappointed that you're even trialing this, let people who insist on using AI make their own addons and don't make the browser laggier for the rest of us!

[anon789]

Please no.

[gavingrant]

Hi, please do not do this. AI is a climate warming disaster and I want no part in it here or anywhere else.

[Carrie7]

NO it's a pox on technology and should be shunned by you and every other tech entity.

[Kazard]

Hey, don't.

[SeraphRDM]

Absolutely NOT. No one asked for this. Please stop shoe-horning AI into every bloody thing, thank you.

[IamJoseph]

One thing I like about you is you're not creeps with my data

If you're using ai you have to be scrutinizing my input which means you're being creeps with my data

I'll stop using Mozilla if you bring in AI

[ClumsyMinty]

People are finally picking Firefox over Chrome because of LLMs. LLMs are garbage, work like garbage and should not be integrated into everything, AI is good at very specific and very niche tasks. Firefox has an opportunity to market as the browser option with no LLM garbage, the browser for sensible people who just want to access websites and search. If Firefox adds LLM features, it's just following Edge and Chrome, there's nothing to differentiate Firefox from it's competition. By shunning AI features, Firefox can present itself as the browser for the Anti-AI crowd, which is already a majority of consumers in Europe and North America. Focus on useful things like improving performance and power efficiency for laptops or tab docking or other features that users have been requesting for years.

[maeamian]

Are you **bleep**ing serious? Absolutely not. Remove it and never try this **bleep** again.

[kalle_katt]

No

[Maferep]

Genuine question,trying to be fair here: Why would anyone want this to be built into Firefox?

For context, AI is already built into most widely used mainstream services. In Google, your default search engine, it can't even be turned off. Even if the user likes AI it's completely redundant to make Firefox a part of it and just adds bloat.

[qu1j0t3]

I won't use Firefox if it incorporates 'ai' junk. You should take a firm stand against it and assist users in blocking and finding alternatives to any 'ai' products (e.g. google search). This is the way to increase your adoption.

[Aelfgifu1]

Stop forcing garbage AI on people. It doesn't work and no one wants it.

[NyxieNeon]

DO NOT.

I do not know what the "4th Option" is for browsers currently but if you do this I will be switching.

[SquirrelGirl]

I've been using Firefox since the early days and have stuck with it, even as companies like Google have undermined it by making it difficult to use with their products

I'm concerned that this LLM "AI" integration will mean I have to switch away from Firefox, as I've seen the real harm these models are doing to workers' rights, to information on the web, and to the environment

"AI" as we are calling these models is causing real precarity for so many creative people, and I would like Mozilla to abandon these plans, thank you

[ProfCookie]

No please no!

[blahpers]

Do not do this.

Users do not want it.  Many will drop Mozilla completely.  A significant number will go out of their way to discourage others from using Firefox and other Mozilla programs as well.

Note that I don't even have to get into the pros/cons of genAI to evaluate this—just the loss of user sentiment would be catastrophic.

Just don't

[Drewbahr]

Absolutely not. I don't want, and never wanted, any of this AI garbage in my browser. Please, don't fall down the **bleep**hole with everyone else.

[dirkhh]

Just don't.

Seriously. No.

Not needed, not wanted.

[mgrobol]

As a firefox user since 1.0, a nightly tester since before it was called nightly and a researcher in NLP: please don't.

[dfarn]

NO.

I do NOT want this.  Generative AI is an energy hog built on massive plagiarism and copyright violation.  You do not need it, your users do not want it, and you should stop trying to make it happen.

[teddysalad]

Dear god please no.

[owallstromer]

The so-called AI you are implementing has nothing to do with intelligence. It's LLM algorithms, glorified Markov chains that have been trained on stolen data by some of the least ethical techbros you can find and they use insane amounts of energy for no tangible benefits when humanity is in dire need of needing to scale down its use of energy.

I have to assume someone at mozilla is getting courted/bribed by the increasingly desperate LLM peddlers who are failing to deliver on their huge promises (because an LLM can NEVER do the things they claim are "just around the corner", it's just not possible) while their existing product has little use outside of novelty joke prompts and spreading disinformation. They are desperate because their product is both useless and expensive and the VC fund guys are starting to wise up to the fact that they will not be getting their money back and thus everyone involved is now doing their best to cram AI into everything in the hope that they can simply overwhelm consumers into capitulating and paying extra for those AI features they never use or wanted in the first place.

Basically, what's happening is that some people started inventing plagiarism machines that run on combustion engines and when no one wanted them the people who had already invested in this **bleep** started to force it into their other products so that you couldn't get a new appliance without it also including a plagiarism machine and a combustion engine and designing the new appliances so that the plagiarism machine would turn on and burn some gas anytime you tried to do something while also spying on you.

Then, in the next phase, they're gonna point at the plagiarism machines and say "look, these things are expensive to run on those huge combustion engines, so we're gonna charge a higher price now". The whole business idea is to more-or-less force us to pay extra for a machine we never wanted and also burn up the whole **bleep** planet at the same time.

It's baffling that you would jump on this catastrophical racket and if you're not even getting bribed for it, it's just sad. Who is this for? The libertarian gamer dudes and Joe Rogan fans that still believe in crypto (the climate destroying scam before LLM AI) and think the Cybertruck looks cool? Let them download a plugin or an app or something then instead of copying Microsoft and Google and make it a core "feature".  

I really don't want to go through the hassle of changing my primary web browser but if this is implemented permanently I will do it and I will gladly help every bloody friend and relative I am the go-to tech support for to do the same.


TL; DR: this is a horrible idea and you shouldn't do it.

[sensitivesydnee]

do not want

[Gryps2]

AI products have yet to demonstrate an actual value to their user base. Primarily they seem to be vehicles for venture capitalism or plagiarism. Given their unethical training and extremely resource intense nature, I would advise against incorporating them into Firefox.

[besssjay]

AI is bad for the environment and society, please do not jump on this bandwagon.

[MarcC1]

There is no use case for "AI" in a browser.

The sole function of a browser is to accurately and efficiently render a website and execute the services it provides. Nothing more.

Resources expended on injecting unwanted, unnecessary, and diversionary "AI" are wasted, and ought to be better spent improving...rendering accuracy and execution efficiency.

[SayNOtoAi]

please do NOT do this. This is an awful idea, pls listen to your active user base 

[Drift]

Seriously no thank you. Nobody likes AI.

[gdinwiddie]

Please don't put AI in Firefox! If you absolutely have to, make a plugin.

[richardlitt]

I have made an account simply to say this: Don't do this. This is a complete waste of time and planet-scale environmental resources.

[Adzebill]

As a proponent of Firefox versus other browsers who have doubled down on this nonsense, I don’t want to see any engineering effort, time, or resources being used to add “AI” features. Quite apart from the environmental cost of needless extra computing. I would love to see Firefox take a principled “No AI” stand as a point of difference, and do it soon before the bubble collapses. 

[timelmer]

No, thank you, to A.I. in any context.

[Catbus]

No. No AI services in Firefox. If they show up in my Firefox, ever, for any reason, I'm switching to Vivaldi from that moment on and never. looking. back.

[queen_ofthe_fae]

I started using Firefox because it seemed so user-focused in a good way: preserving users’ privacy and browsing experience in a way other popular browsers do not. I DO NOT support the addition of generative AI and may honestly consider changing my browser if such “tools” are implemented.

[Jamborghini]

Please don’t. Take a hint from Procreate, they didn’t implement AI and their user base absolutely loved that.

As an artist this AI boom is taking an *extreme* toll on my mental health and the same is true for many other people. This isn’t helpful, it’s annoying at best and life ruining at worst. No one really wants this, it’s not useful unless you are scamming people, and it’s bad for the environment (an understatement). We are begging you not to implement this.

[JH23]

No. Definitely not.

[Ziselberger]

Do NOT mess up Firefox with this LLM nonsense. It is a privacy and copyright nightmare. You're better than this.

[crc32]

Why does Mozilla continue to ignore their users and implement **bleep** like this? Stop it.