Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[moz_user]

Ctrl alt x

[killmeholy]

brother no one wants this thing. and the fact that it's on by default is horrible

[lackey]

How did Admin Jon edit your comment?

[Reliant]

I hope deepseek can be added to the botlist

[ESaturn]

all LLM AI is a human rights violation and none of the predatory creeps who'd even tolerate it's existence should be permitted to draw breath themselves.

[Koyo_Koyo]

Invaluable feature. It helps a lot. I hope you continue supporting and upgrading it

[ESaturn]

i really do get the impression that people's attitudes now with regard to AI are the same as those same people would of had towards the slave trade in the 1700's. there's not much difference if you understand how it works and is made. not to say that slavery ever ended in the US because it didn't, given both it being legal in prison labor and effectively legal with sub-livable wages.
if you support the use or existence of any LLM AI, then you oppose basic human rights.

[Anonymous]

Please remove the Ctrl Alt X shortcut, as it gets in the way of Google Docs spell check. Pressing this also turns on the checkbox for the AI, so at least make the shortcut turn off when I deselect the checkbox in the settings menu.

[argishure]

In Windows, go to language settings and change the Keyboard from English (US) to English (India). I hate the English (UK) keyboard but you can try that too.

[VahidN]

Is it possible to create custom shortcuts for it? I want to add new menu items for "ask google Gemini" here.

[ESaturn]

both the process and ethics of training any LLM AI(the basis of all image, text, music, and code generating AI) can be most accurately described as digital serial rape, it is as a general rule non-consensual and done by force, deception, and coercion. OpenAI has even repeatedly argued in court that they should be allowed to do this because by their own admission it is impossible to build LLM AI without doing this. all in order to enact a round about form of slavery in forced extraction of labor from non-consensual sources, even identity theft as it mimics the styles of specific creative workers with neither their knowing nor consent and in some cases deliberately as a function of the software. anyone who uses or tolerates any LLM based AI with only the exception of using it to sabotage and fight back against LLMs is complicit in this atrocity.
i say this as someone who has repeatedly been sexually assaulted as well, and mean it fully.

[ibandino]

Groke fail XD ....... Groke ist good for arch users

[ESaturn]

all LLM gen AI is a human rights violation and anyone and everyone who uses it needs to be brought to justice

[idcjustletmein]

I checked my browser settings to turn it off, and saw that it was on by default, which is the opposite of what you claim here. Generative AI has well-documented issues with intellectual property rights, the environmental impacts, and literally doing people's thinking for them, which I doubt I need to explain any further than it has been already. Mozilla is making its product worse to chase a harmful trend, and abandoning its core values by doing so. I will immediately be looking for alternatives and/or taking the advice of the other commenters who explained how to revert to a previous version.

If Mozilla needs another reason to revert this change (and the changes to the Privacy Notice, while they're at it), I am currently addicted to AI chatbots. They have isolated me from people I care about, made it harder to brainstorm creative writing ideas (which is something I love to do!), and wastes a ton of water while I generate answer after answer, and for what? To waste my own time pretending I'm dating a fictional character when there's many wonderful people I could be getting to know in the real world?

AI addiction is not something medical professionals are currently equipped to treat, and Mozilla has ignored all these issues, dismissed the impacts on people's health and safety, for a quick buck. Is that it, Mozilla? I can't trust myself to manage this addiction yet, and I'm only just starting to acknowledge the problem. I can't trust myself to manage a currently untreated addiction with a simple checkbox. There was a news story about a teenager who killed himself because of Character.AI, and you want to make the problem worse?

Whoever made this decision is gonna get a reality check from Firefox's userbase VERY soon. We chose Firefox because of its commitment to respect the privacy of its users, not sell our data or let companies track us... and now our data is being used to train a technology that already has blood on its cold, mechanical hands.

Well, Mozilla? You wanted people's data, didn't you? Or was this too personal, even for you?

[Manchester100]

A thoughtful and helpful response, I believe. Thank you.

[Ginny]

I feel personally insulted that Mozilla is considering AI integration in Firefox.  This,  along with the very worrying changes in their privacy notice that seem to conflict with their recent blog posts, makes me fear for the future of the browser.  If AI does take any step forward,  I will switch to another browser entirely.  Disappointing from a company I once trusted. 

[majesticmini471]

I completely agree! The internet is a stab in the back, now known as artificial intelligence.

[Manchester100]

Well lots of people are leaving feedback... 3,721 replies so far.

Anyone know if they will respond or how many responses they need before they do?

[lackey]

I don't think they were looking for any feedback that wasn't positive. The rest of us are just getting softened up for the inevitable

[Clawz]

If this is further implemented into Firefox I will stop using this browser

[majesticmini471]

I so sadly agree, and I am a strong team member to Mozilla. Lord, so help us!

[ikkqq]

sir, Where is Microsoft Copilot and Deepseek AI?

[lackey]

Maybe money has to change hands before Mozilla adds it

[TS25714]

This will absolutely need a second sidebar, the same way Edge already has (left side for tabs, right side for copilot etc, for example). Right now we would have to decide between Sidebery and similar (even the upcoming efforts to bring vertical tabs natively to FX) which is not worth it IMHO. Vertical tabs > shortcut to chatbot.

[Mardak]

These Nightly builds have the new sidebar experience with vertical tabs in development along with the chatbot experiment. We're still working on integrating these features, but you can have both active today.

 

[aminought]

Sidebery > native vertical tabs. Also:
1. Each sidebar extension should have their own width. It is very inconvenient to look at the result of the AI Chatbot in a small panel in which I usually have Sidebery.
2. Some sidebar extensions, like AI Chatbot, should be able to open in the overlay so that I can return to Sidebery without additional actions.
3. A setting is needed to select the language in which the chatbot should respond.

Thank you!

[BiORNADE]

You can put ChatGPT or any AI Chatting service into a sidebar, which makes the features useless and sort of a filler but... Actually, the only time that AI Chatbots in a browser was a big deal was when Microsoft Edge had BingAI, which was a free version of GPT 4.0 FE (with some improved enhancements), but it didn't last much until MS got Copilot (BingAI) in almost everywhere, so you can use it on Windows 7 now (sarcastically saying)

To test the waters with sidebar, using a known website (from time to time) is a nice idea, so the Firefox Team are able to detect the issue easier and deliver a fix earlier... But a native AI feature that works just like a sidebars is not that of an idea

But here's a nice thing; you can actually access everything just like watching a gecko video and commenting on this very forum using a simple technique.
Some more contrast in the lines, some more tests, some polish from the community, the final testing, then the final product. The technique could also extend to PWAs (the most Kudoed question still on review)

Looking ahead to an answer

Kind Regards,
BiORNADE

[Mardak]

I'm guessing you used Google Gemini to navigate the sidebar to another page such as this Connect discussion? You could more directly do that by setting a custom provider url, but that's not the main use case of this feature.

[BiORNADE]

It almost works like a Sidebar, so you can just access anything with little to no issues.

Wouldn't make sense to have ChatBot option when Sidebar gets complete, but maybe some little additions that you can make like:

[to provide ChatBOT Features] -> IF<TitleGPT is the only website marked as CHATBOT (1)> or IF<TitleGPT is open out of all marked ChatBots (2+)> == (Chatbot actions shown for TitleGPT only)
<Otherwise, if there are no Chatbots added on the sidebar> == [all features of Chatbots must be disabled]

Atleast for me, adding Chatbot (and an option to mark as) to a sidebar feature instead of a separate thing, would be better. Just don't make it so bloated, but just do some, like, simple stuff

[ilikefirefox99]

I love the features being implemented, BUT... as many point out, a second sidebar  is necessary. The idea should be same as all other browsers. You have a vertical panel with your vertical tabs in the left, and you have the sidebar (history, bookmarks, etc, etc, etc) on the right.

Trying to create a single sidebar that also has your vertical tabs on it, it's a very messy concept and a terrible poor implementation in my view. I understand that it might be tricky to implement this feature, but honestly, it's very very very necessary.

No need to reinvent the wheel, Vivaldi, and especially Microsoft Edge, already show  you the best concept:

Thank you.

[0x4d6165]

if you're gonna use AI crap anyway why not just use edge lol

[Jon]

Thanks for the feedback! For those interested, there's another idea thread for a second sidebar here:

2nd Sidebar 

[wutongtaiwan]

Firefox can now have multiple chatbots, but none of them can be used in China, so I recommend adding chatbots from China. For example, ERNIE bot, the Chinese name of this bot is called “文心一言”. And the other one is Kimi Chat.  Their official website:  Kimi Chat • SmartAI   文心一言 (baidu.com)  

[Mardak]

Do you know if these chatbots support passing in prompts with ?q= A quick test of https://yiyan.baidu.com/?q=你好 doesn't seem to work.

[wutongtaiwan]

This AI bot requires an account login, which may be due to this reason why it does not work

[danyeaw]

As a user, I want a great performant web browser, I don't want LLM features integrated at all. If Firefox wants to work on this, it should only be offered as an extension.

[Mardak]

Have you noticed a decrease in performance when the feature is disabled or even enabled but not open?

[mega]

Obviously it'd take even longer to build.

[haingdc]

I also like shortcuts to increase/decrease sidebar width. Sometimes, I really that the it's too narrow for content. Then we have drag feature to adjust the width. IMO, But It's can be easier with shortcuts

[Mardak]

Are you referring to the chatbot sidebar being too narrow? It recently got wider with Nightly 130 (20240803095257), so if you switch between a narrow sidebar for say history and chatbot, it should automatically get wider and return to narrow without needing to drag.