06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 09:20 PM
Do not do this. Do not put AI into Firefox. It's nearly impossible to find a online service without it, please do not implement it onto one of the only safe AI free browsers out there.
09-09-2024 09:20 PM - edited 09-09-2024 09:23 PM
F AI. Please don't ruin Firefox with AI. Come on, I'm so tired of this AI crap everywhere. No one wants this lol
09-09-2024 09:21 PM
I really do not find AI helpful for most things and the impact on the environment doesn't make it worth while. I very much belive that Mozilla will survive better by not using it.Preview
09-09-2024 09:22 PM
No No No please no I started using firefox to ESCAPE the scraping and privacy violations rampant in AI tools found in other browsers. Please don't go down this route.
09-09-2024 09:26 PM
i will never want "a.i." or LLMs or GenAI built into my browser. i want my browser to browse webpages, not send data to OpenAI or anyone else in the background. i will definitely be doing searches now for things like "firefox fork without LLM AI" sigh.
09-09-2024 09:28 PM
Frick no
09-09-2024 09:29 PM
I DO NOT WANT ANY FSCKING AI CHAT SH!T IN MY FECKING BROWSER. Firefox used to be the browser that actually cared about it's users' privacy and web experience and then something happened. You guys have gone batsh!t crazy insane with all the cr@p you're adding to the browser. Fecking hell.
Why do you hate your users so much?
09-09-2024 09:36 PM
I will neuter the person who suggested this with my clipper shears. No
09-09-2024 09:39 PM
Please no, it is unnecessary and the lack of features such as AI is the reason why we choose Firefox and support Mozilla. I, and likely many other users, avoid using any products or services that utilize AI in any way.
09-09-2024 09:41 PM
""AI"" is an extremely unethical, not to mention environmentally damaging technology which has absolutely no place in any mozilla product. Firefox is currently the only remaining browser that doesnt limit you for ad revenue, please, don't force this on your loyal customerbase.
09-09-2024 09:40 PM
girl do not do this to us and yourselves. we're using firefox because it's not pulling the same bs as everyone else. start pulling that bs and we'll leave.
09-09-2024 09:43 PM
No, thank you.
09-09-2024 09:44 PM
Absolutely hate it, no, never, please no. I will literally leave Firefox after over 15 years over this.
09-09-2024 09:47 PM
AI chat can be a useful tool sometimes however it would be nice to be prompted if you want it to be enabled or to keep it disabled. Probably make it an extension would be the right way.
09-09-2024 09:47 PM
Please don't make us Mozilla users complicit in this! You are throwing the Mozilla name behind a "technology" that is clunky, environmentally wasteful and a pale imitation of human capabilities. Generative "AI" by nature requires scraping and analyzing a hell of a lot of data and should have no place in a browser/foundation that's supposedly privacy and data control focused.
Places AI has a use: Medical research to detect cancer from scans. Deep-sea exploration to more easily find different creatures in hours of video footage. These are examples of projects with limited, tailored usage and actual benefits to humanity.
Places AI should NOT be: in the sidebar of a browser so people can fart around and amuse themselves online. If people can't use Firefox without AI, the problem is not "Firefox doesn't have AI," the problem is pop culture is obsessed with a technology that is going to fizzle (for the general public) like NFTs or Beanie Babies.
09-09-2024 09:53 PM
NO AI. Not now, not ever. We don't need it, we don't want it, NO.
09-09-2024 09:55 PM
Hi,
Beloved Firefox user here. It is too early to implement AI features with the stage of progress it is in. At the moment all AI can do is make terrifying images and paragraphs of nonsense that can result in misinformation and death. It is terrible for the environment. Please do not waste your money and time on any AI features for Firefox. There is no real use for it yet. Please no AI. Please.
Sincerely,
Jack
09-09-2024 09:55 PM
i have not tried it. i do not plan to try it. i do not want it. do not do this thing.
09-09-2024 09:57 PM
I use Firefox *because* it's not like other browsers. I don't want to see invasive (there is no way for AI to no be invasive) features added to a program I use for it's privacy.
I hope the amount of people reaching out to reply to this and the amount of upvotes they're getting is proof that this is a flash in the pan feature no one wants.
Tech jumped on crypto, then that crashed. Tech jumped on nfts, then that crashed. AI is the newest tech grift that'll look embarrassing to those that participated in a few years time. Don't throw away your credibility by embracing it.
09-09-2024 10:04 PM
This is a terrible idea and i would advise against adding AI on the current model. It is made from stolen data, which would reflect poorly on Mozilla's commitment to safe browsing. It is wasteful with water and electricity in a time we can't afford it. Please do not adopt the current available AI.
09-09-2024 10:09 PM
I've been a fan of Mozilla for many, many years. Your browser, django tutorials, and ethics on web-related issues have been top-notch.
But this is just a really disappointing development.
Be better. Please. For the sake of the Internet.
09-09-2024 10:14 PM
It's really unnecessary. I hope it doesn't make it to the release version.
09-09-2024 10:10 PM
No, dont integrate ai into firefox, even if it is not in the core. You'ld be able to make it a add-on if you really want to. And if it needs greater access than any other add-on, you shouldn't put it in firefox
09-09-2024 10:14 PM - edited 09-09-2024 10:30 PM
I see no compelling reason for this to be a feature built into Firefox. I think that AI does have its place in the world, but due to the many issues with LLMs/Chatbots, such as data scraping concerns, sky-high energy and water usage, many privacy issues, and their tendency to 'hallucinate,' there is no reason that they should be anywhere near a web browser. That's insane.
This seems like an ill-advised attempt to ride the same bandwagon as everyone else is riding. Firefox has been my #1 browser of choice for years precisely because the people behind it genuinely seem invested in providing a streamlined, efficient, no bull**bleep** browser that does what I want it to, no more and no less. If I need something else, the modularity provided by community addons makes it easy to customize it the way I want. Mozilla/Firefox's brand identity is built on being different, and better, than its rival Google/Chrome- This effort to be the same as every other browser erodes that identity, and with it, any reason to use it over its competitors. I'm genuinely curious if any significant portion of Firefox's userbase has actually been asking for these integrations, but by the other responses to this thread, I'm going to say no. No one wants this.
09-09-2024 10:18 PM
Please do not do this. I am sick and tired of AI being shoved down my throat. The negative societal and environmental impacts cannot be ignored. If AI is implemented in Firefox, I'm out.
09-09-2024 10:24 PM
What problem are you intending the AI to solve? Because 99.9% of all the times I've seen AI implemented, it has been mostly because AI is the trendy new tool and not because it's actually useful. When the AI is added, it makes the thing it was added to measurably worse. (Hallucinating nonsense, obscuring the actual thing I'm looking for by enabling people to create a flood of "content" that isn't useful, and many more.) I would hate for Firefox to add the thing that is actively making the internet worse.
09-09-2024 10:23 PM
This kind of stuff is why I switched to Firefox, I don't want more ai stuff everywhere I go. Ai is the biggest contributor to modern misinformation campaigns and ai has created awnsers that will kill people. Ai has no place built into a web browser itself.
09-09-2024 10:25 PM
Please do not. "AI" is infiltrating so many tools I use lately, and in my experience it has always been for the worse. I do believe that LLMs and other "AI" have uses, but those uses are limited and the technology only functions properly with direct supervision. I know it's the latest tech fad, but I'm hoping it goes the way of blockchain scams soon. It's making the entire internet worse and harder to use.
09-09-2024 10:28 PM
Please don't. The integration of AI is one of the many primary reasons why I left Google Chrome.
09-09-2024 10:32 PM
PLEASE NO??? FIREFOX IS ONE OF THE LAST BASTIONS OF INTERNET FUNCTIONALITY, PLEASE DON'T RUIN IT BY ADDING AI🙏🙏🙏
09-09-2024 10:33 PM
Please no. Listen to your userbase. The core ones are those who drive the few conversions that are left. Just make a good browser that promotes independent services. Add fediverse features if you must do something. Or reinstate rss. Otherwise just keep making a solid browser.
09-09-2024 10:34 PM
absolutely the **bleep** not, I use Firefox because it DOESN'T have bull**bleep** like this. environmentally disastrous, unethical data scraping, no way.
09-09-2024 10:44 PM
Please don't. Not having AI is one of the main reasons I am using Firefox, and it would be a shame to see that go.
09-09-2024 10:44 PM
Keep AI away from Firefox. I want my internet to be as secure and simple as possible.
09-09-2024 10:46 PM
It's pretty clear from @Mardak 's constant sidestepping of the core issues people are raising that Mozilla is intent on pursuing this integration - community's concerns be damned. I have no idea why this person has been entrusted with this particular degree of autonomy over the browser - they certainly have not been appropriately trained in collecting user feedback.
I suppose now's as good a time as any to switch to an alternative.
Sad to see Mozilla slip this way.
09-09-2024 10:58 PM
I would much rather the option to hide and remove all ai content and engagement boxes. The applied statistics LLM is not fit for any purpose bar wasting water in a desert and tricking money hungry employers to seeing it as the free alternative to labour.
Please do not. I appreciate you want comments on how it is working etc but I need you to be aware that if I cannot find an AI free browser I will teach myself how to make one.
09-09-2024 10:59 PM
Please DO NOT institute AI services in Firefox. This is the one browser left that is not engaging with AI shenanigans. It is not a useful tool, it is environmentally harmful and we just don't need it.
09-09-2024 10:59 PM
Please do not do this.
09-09-2024 10:59 PM
DO NOT WANT. There's a reason I switched to Firefox, and it was too avoid all the nonsense that Google was pulling, genAI being the latest salvo. GenAI is just a climate-ruining, resource guzzling mediocrity machine, and I want no part of it.
09-09-2024 11:10 PM
we don't need it attached to the browser. It's already unavoidable in a lot of other places, the people who want AI can go find it there. AI is too hallucinatory to be useful, it needs a lot more time to bake before it can be anything it claims to be. Don't give in to the hype, let Firefox stay a bastion free from AI nonsense, please and thank you