06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 06:23 AM
I just learned about LibreWolf thanks to this AI "experiment," please don't drive me away with any more embracing of AI.
09-09-2024 06:23 AM - edited 09-09-2024 06:26 AM
I already switched from Chrome to Firefox because of Google's misguided AI plans. If Mozilla continues down this path, I will happily find another web browser.
Are you able to provide evidence to any of the following:
Without adequate answers to all of these, Mozilla will be guilty of jumping on the same unethical, destructive, money chasing bandwagon that so many other tech companies are burning billions on. The AI bubble is going to burst, and the damage to our economy from their short sighted races to outdo each other is going to be massive. Only bright side is it might thankfully happen soon enough that the environmental damage will not be as severe.
This is a terrible path to begin down. Be better.
09-09-2024 06:23 AM
Please please PLEASE reconsider adding AI to Firefox, AI doesn't do anything to a browser but make it worse
09-09-2024 06:25 AM
If it's not too late, my suggestion would be to ditch the entire project and strongly disavow any and all use of generative AI on all Mozilla platforms.
thank you.
09-09-2024 06:27 AM
There is no place for AI in a browser.
09-09-2024 06:27 AM
I think others have stated their reasoning more eloquently than I, but absolutely do not incorporate this feature. AI is unethically trained, totally antithetical to privacy, and a huge drain on the environment. It will be a spit in the face to what Mozilla is meant to stand for if you incorporate AI in any meaningful fashion as it stands now, and you WILL lose users over it. I have enjoyed using Firefox just fine. Don't make me switch.
Thanks.
09-09-2024 06:29 AM
Please do not add AI features to Firefox
09-09-2024 06:31 AM
Absolutely not. No thank you.
09-09-2024 06:30 AM
this is honestly a god awful idea and the entire reason i switched to firefox was to escape stuff like this
please don’t do this, firefox is meant to be safe and private, AI is not
09-09-2024 06:32 AM
Nooooooo! No. NO! THIS! CAN! BE! A! PLUG-IN!
DO NOT BLOAT! ESPECIALLY WITH AI!!!
09-09-2024 06:34 AM
Please don't do this. I don't want my data sold for a shady AI company whose entire existence is based on stealing content. And don't get me started on how much these companies pollute. No, no, and no thank you.
09-09-2024 06:38 AM
I'm truly disgusted by the addition of AI features and code to the Firefox browser. This is a total waste of everyone's time and energy. Please cease this pointless experiment now.
09-09-2024 06:39 AM
I think this is a terrible idea, given the myriad of ethical and environmental concerns surrounding this kind of AI usage. I urge you to reconsider.
09-09-2024 06:40 AM - edited 09-09-2024 06:48 AM
No, thank you. One reason for my loyalty to firefox is that I can use it without feeling like everything I do is mined and exploited. Please keep that trash out of here.
09-09-2024 06:41 AM
AI is not only an energy sink, it fails to even do what it promises. Keep it out of Firefox.
09-09-2024 06:43 AM
I literally only made a mozilla account in order to say I do NOT want AI in my browser. I use firefox in order to get AWAY from the stupid policy choices of Google, especially the data selling and AI integration.
I really don't want to have to start looking for a new alternative browser but it looks like I might be.
09-09-2024 06:45 AM
I appreciate Firefox as a browser that is clean and gives me control. AI is the exact opposite of what I want; I will be seeking out every possible option to turn it off, hide it, and remove it. I do not want this feature, and it makes me trust Firefox less. I appreciate that you have at least made it opt in, but it feels like this is the beginning of a slippery slope to stupidity.
09-09-2024 06:50 AM
AI or anything else that scrapes information from me is a violation of the core reason I use Firefox: respect for my privacy.
Stop doing AI and focus on the core browsing features. That's why Mozilla exists.
09-09-2024 06:51 AM
NOOOOO!
NO!
JUST NO!
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
09-09-2024 06:52 AM
I'm asking you to please not do this to your userbase. There's plenty of other companies currently forcing generative computer algorythms on their users, please don't become one of them. I, like many, will have to lock myself into a non-"AI" version of firefox, or seek another solution for my browsing purposes. Please, please, please rethink this decision.
09-09-2024 06:58 AM
Given Mozilla's privacy mission, would you consider adding support for locally run LLM interfaces like ollama?
09-09-2024 06:59 AM
I do not want generative AI anywhere near my browser data and If I wanted someone to confidently lie to me, I’d watch Fox News.
If you implement this I will change browsers.
09-09-2024 07:00 AM
One of the reasons I'm with Firefox is because I wanted a browser that wouldn't get into the AI foolishness, due to the potential plagiarism and misinformation issues, the massive environmental cost, and the fact that most of what it does well can be easily done with a Google search. Please reconsider adding it in.
09-09-2024 07:01 AM
Please don't. I use Firefox specifically to get away from all this AI garbage companies are pushing on everyone.
09-09-2024 07:01 AM
We didn't ask for this and we clearly don't want it.
If you want to join Google and Microsoft in a race for the "ensh**ification" of the internet then you'll do it without the userbase that chose your product specifically as an alternative to the more damaging ones.
09-09-2024 07:02 AM
No one asked for this. Be better.
09-09-2024 07:01 AM
Absolutely do not do this. Your users DO NOT WANT this "functionality" AT ALL in ANY WAY. Get it out of Firefox. Stop it. You will lose users over it. This is a terrible, terrible decision.
09-09-2024 07:05 AM
Hey community,
Jumping in here real quick. We appreciate the feedback and activity in this thread, even (and often especially) when we're not in agreement, but please remember the Community Guidelines when posting to Connect. Be kind and show respect when sharing constructive criticism - this helps our discussions stay as productive as possible.
Hope this helps and feel free to let me know if you have any questions.
09-09-2024 07:15 AM
Hi Jon! Thanks for that. I agree that keeping the discourse civil and constructive is super important, and I do have a couple of questions which are intended to be helpful and illustrative for the folks who aren't holding torches and pitchforks 🙂
- How does this fit with Mozilla and Firefox's core values around consumer / user privacy?
- Might adding the option to at least use local LLMs running on the user's own machine help?
Thanks for providing this forum. Having a place to post feedback is indeed very helpful.
09-09-2024 07:22 AM
Please, instead of considering your feelings, consider the resounding negative reception of this terrible idea. This is an instructive moment for you and your company.
09-09-2024 09:07 AM
Tell us that you are synthesising a Frankenstein's monster and the villagers will bring out their pitchforks and torches. People have died from using "AI" generated foraging "books". The more this sad mimicry of human art and science is given credence by unthinking commercialisation, the more people will die. Either directly from lethal misinformation or from isolation from real human contact as the internet fills with fakery. It is already difficult to find real websites among the fakes.
09-10-2024 11:31 PM
@JonMozilla has been showing disdain to the Firefox community for ages. Firefox keeps rolling out hated changes and ignoring community feedback, and top-voted ideas have been ignored and unanswered for years at this point.
It's no surprise that you're getting disrespectful responses when Mozilla has been disrespecting our feedback for so long. If you want healthy discussions, you can start by actually listening to our feedback and fixing the things that WE have been saying for years.
You won't get civility by enforcing community guidelines; you will get it by rebuilding your relationship with the community, and that starts by LISTENING and ACTING on our feedback.
09-09-2024 07:05 AM
All modern AI services are made possible through the violation of user privacy and the theft of user data. I switched to Firefox because it promised to actually protect my privacy compared to the likes of Google. So if Mozilla betrays that promise by insisting on making AI part of Firefox, I will find another browser that can be counted on to actually honor its promises to protect user privacy.
09-09-2024 07:05 AM
Please no!
09-09-2024 06:59 AM
I use Firefox every day and I do not want AI to have any part in it.
09-09-2024 07:05 AM
Please don't. Firefox works to show me web pages and that's really, truly all I want from it!
09-09-2024 07:09 AM
Not just no but HELL no. Get that harmful, dangerous, forest-burning, water-guzzling, disinformation-machine crap outta here.
09-09-2024 07:09 AM
NO
09-09-2024 07:11 AM
Please don't add AI.
09-09-2024 07:12 AM - edited 09-09-2024 07:14 AM
Take your climate-raping, planet trashing AI and piss-off out of the solar system deep into the interstellar medium.