Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[myspace]

Thanks going to try it out now!

[AdventureGamer]

NO. No, no, no, no, NO. NO AI in the last bastions of privacy on the internet!!! What the hell!!!!!!!!

[Emmic]

when are we going to get a post like this on the new toolbar and url box thing that's just come to nightly? because I have many thoughts about that for firefox to pretend to care about....

[Honeebunny]

Booooo!! I expected better from Firefox, but you're just proving that companies as a whole don't have or care about ethics. Disgusting.

[MarryAurora12]

best

[meias]

Absolutely not. There was a post from Proton on mastodon recently that said something to the effect of AI is inevitable. I take problem with such a stance as it really does not have to be inevitable. On the contrary, the only inevitable thing about AI is that it will inevitably cause harm. Stealing information to train the model, causing massive amounts of environmental damage due to the resources needed to power it. This is not the path we need to go down.

I understand Mozilla is trying it's best to stay relevant, and to bring people back to Firefox. But we shouldn't be trying to stoop to the levels of the people we are purporting to be better than. A true genuine focus on the mission to serve people's needs, not the needs of corporate investors, is how we achieve that.

[wutongtaiwan]

Please forgive me for saying something here that is not related to this topic. I hope Mozilla will drop the feature of privacy attribution, or turn it off by default, otherwise Mozilla could be subject to a hefty fine if Europeans sue Mozilla for violating the GDPR

[ffffff]

...Why are you posting this? I'm sorry, but I don't see what this adds to the discussion, and it very much looks like it was written by an LLM.

[aminought]

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[gpiper]

You should be branding Mozilla products as "AI Free" not integrating the demon seed into your codebase.

[PatOr]

Can you add Copilot to choose?

[MR-d3R]

It'd be great to add shortcut for that

[DonutRush]

You should not be inserting lake-draining spam machines into a browser that claims to want to make the web a better place. This is a deeply immoral and short-sighted decision, and your comments in this thread make you seem shockingly uninformed about what people outside of your tech bubble think about this garbage.

Mozilla should not be encouraging the decline of the internet.

[Rika]

I think a user-defined prompt will make it more convenient
for example,When I selected some text,it will have a option like"My prompt",and the name of the option can be changed,to define the content of "My prompt",we need to go to settings then edit it.
like"I’m on page "selected texts",Please translate the text above"

[BeKingOrDie]

I love it 😍😍😍😍😍😍, and some short-cut to open very quick 

[YPAP2205]

Will it be possible to add custom AI providers without needing to change the AI provider link in about:config? Just so users can add their own AI they wish to use.

[MWIchigo]

This is a feature I would never use.

On the other hand, a feature I not only would use, but in fact have used numerous times per day for several years, is hitting enter in an empty search bar to go to the search engine. It's a novel feature that other browsers have and Firefox seems to be mysteriously missing.

[Lighthouse]

Please add DuckDuckGo AI Chat.
No need for account and more privacy.
(https://duckduckgo.com/aichat)

[ppm1337]

This is a nice addition (which always should remain optional in my opinion), but without a keyboard shortcut this is completely useless. It's faster to just open Edge next to firefox/having a chatbot in a separate tab than clicking 3 times to open the AI chatbot sidebar.

[Encrypter]

I appreciate that some users may have reservations about these features, but incorporating them into Firefox can help make the browser more accessible and appealing to a wider audience. Since these tools are entirely optional, users who have privacy concerns can easily disable them.

@asafko Regarding the implementation, I was wondering if it would be possible to enhance the chat-bot's Ask chatbot functionality. Specifically, when I click on 'Summarize' without selecting any text, could the chat-bot be provided with the URL of the page I'm on? Currently, it displays a message indicating that I'm on a page with no selection, which isn't very helpful when I'm trying to summarize the page's content. Thank you.

[Somebody1]

can we atleast have something similar to this

This is DuckDuckGos policy on their AI features. It does not even require login! While I cannot say that I have NO doubts on whether or not they follow this I am sure Mozilla can follow it.

[Jeeakro]

The feature seems useful, essentially a free and thus less taxing to use version of those AI extensions that do a similar thing. One very needed feature is editing the prompt templates; when studying a pdf and not understanding something, the explain option is not perfectly reliable and sometimes makes the AI regurgitate the selection bloatedly. Also the "quiz me" template is too specific to use most of the time, I'd like to select whether I want multiple choice or how many questions or options should be generated.

[k2662]

That would be nice, Thank you.

[Julia05]

Please don't add A.I. to the search engine. I specifically started using firefox to get away from the A.I. searches. If you start using A.I, I'm moving search engines again.

[S_Akash]

I think it would be helpful to have a short description of each Chatbot, how they compare with each other, which of them Mozilla believes meets ethical standards (both for end user and everyone in general) and only include those by default which do.

Also a disclaimer about AI Chatbots in general would be helpful (or at least about the current generation). How they can help, some example use cases, what issues they have, what harms they might cause on a personal and societal level, and leave it to the user to then proceed to use the bot if they want.

I understand the need for Firefox to stay relevant (even if it has to do what other browsers shamelessly do even with large market shares), but providing additional information for the people who would read it is always a good thing in my personal opinion. 🙂

[gively]

please add ai chat button on toolbar items.

[barinov274]

Cool! I would like you to also add the ability to use local llms, for more privacy, such as the ability to select llamafile, or to refer to the ollama api. I would also like to have the ability to work with images on the page, using the "screenshot" function in the browser, or selecting from a file.

And in general, more AI - better. You could make the ability to recognize text on the picture, speech recognition, auto translation, creation of subtitles, etc. The main thing is to be able to run it all locally on your pc, and that the models are not loaded into the memory, until the user does not wish.

[mobilex1122]

Good and bad idea. I would like it if there was option for Ollama selfhosted ai. (Or any other selfhosted options)

[mawn]

can we edit the prompts after selecting the text? like instead of summay" => "translate"

[QQueso]

strongly, strongly, STRONGLY against AI and chatbot inclusion to Firefox. They're inaccurate, their energy requirements are bad for the environment, and frankly they're just useless outside of a research setting.

[fournm]

Incredibly strong disapprove, to the point of setting up a Connect account.

[Noaiplease]

I do not want generative AI included in Firefox in any way. Not only do I find generative AI to be morally questionable at best, it is a feature that is often incorrect and actively worsens the user experience. If it is added in full I will be considering switching search engines.

[1AndDone]

My only feedback about AI is that I want it kept off my computer. I think that it is important to verify the exact sources and dates of information that I find in my searches. AI does not do that, so it is useless to me. If Mozilla fully rolls out AI in the future, I hope that it continues the option in Firefox settings to let users keep it turned off.

[geekley]

Please add DuckDuckGo AI Chat as well (https://duck.ai/ or https://duckduckgo.com/aichat/).
It's an option that claims to respect privacy. It also has multiple providers to choose from, currently GPT4o mini, Claude, Llama, Mixtral (these last 2 seem to be open source).

[geekley]

1. Please let us set a custom provider in a way that we can switch options without losing the URL. Currently, if I select another option, the custom URL I set is lost. Even better, let us add multiple custom providers in the UI, assigning both name and URL for each entry, so it shows that name instead of "Custom provider (URL)".
2. Why can't I right click stuff in the sidebar, like e.g. selected text to copy it, search, etc?
3. You could have a "pop-out" button in the sidebar that moves it to a regular tab (without reloading the page) in case someone wants to continue the chat with more space.
4. In addition to the sidebar close button, you could have a hide button that closes it without unloading the page. So you can continue with the chat history where you left it upon showing the panel again.
5. It would be nice to have a setting to hide the switch provider dropdown. Or you could collapse it into an image button in the area above it, next to the close button, to avoid wasting vertical space.

[Aewin]

Mozilla has talked a big game about 'ethical AI' but the AIs listed include the biggest offenders in terms of negative environmental impact and content theft, so this move makes me question their dedication to ethical AI (as well as their ethical stances in general).

I'd like to ask Firefox to either remove the AI features entirely or provide an alternative download with them completely missing from the browser code. I have myriad ethical and legal concerns about AI and the writing that I share online, and I will need to postpone the update and find another browser to switch to if I can't be assured that nothing is scraping my text. I can only be assured of that if no AI features are integrated into the browser at all.

[pascalin]

I tried it with ChatGPT, but I find the interface a bit obtrusive. I don't want that everytime I highlight some text Firefox displays an annoying icon next to my highlight. I think that behavior should be restricted to when I have the Chatbot sidebar activated.

[Doug7070]

I am opposed in the strongest possible terms to any sort of contemporary generative AI products or features being integrated into Firefox by default. This includes LLMs, diffusion models, or any derivatives based on the same methods or provided in whole or in part by any companies in the current market space for such products.

The ethical ramifications of the current glut of AI products are dire and reach fundamentally to the core of the technology as currently implemented, and I am extremely disappointed that Mozilla would even consider choosing to integrate any form of these products by default. I have ceased the use of multiple pieces of software entirely due to the pointless integration of AI chatbots and other similar "features", and I would very much prefer that Firefox not join that list by chasing the current market trend of dubiously useful AI bloat and its innumerable ethical transgressions at every stage of development and deployment.

To be absolutely clear: I do not care if an LLM is provided by a company or group that claims to respect privacy or an open-source ethos, I do not care if the LLM runs entirely locally and transmits no data to any external server, I do not care what excuses are made by the people peddling these products about their ethical "guardrails", this entire field of software is as it stands currently a poisoned well, and I will not condone or tolerate its use in the software I use on my systems or recommend to others.

If Mozilla does insist on making these integrations available, they should be as optional addons to be installed by users seeking that functionality, not packaged with Firefox by default.

[atiredinsect]

pls stop ai is a scam that does nothing but steal pls let it fail instead of making it worse : (