No AI in the browser

[fl0id]

Please do not add AI in the browser as a core feature. If you want to experiment with various ways to use AI, please do it as an optional feature in the form of an addon or similar. Many people use FFX because it is not Edge or Chrome, and that necessitates sth like AI being optional.

[btuftin]

Just got the latest update with the top new feature being "Shake to summarize". Seriously considering dropping Firefox as my main browser.

[owl7829wg]

Strong cosign. Do this, Mozilla, what is wrong with you?

[anon67867856785]

SHAME ON FIREFOX TEAM FOR SHOVING AI SLOP DOWN EVERYONE'S THROAT!!!! SHAMEFUL!!!!

I have more than a decade of being a faithful firefox user but you have lost all my respect from now on and will be moving away from this piece of **bleep** software. FKIN SHAMEFUL!!!

[ChimeraXIII]

Strongly Agree. This is gross behavior and if there isn't a fairly prompt fix I'll be leaving too. Ai is unethical and I'm sick of invasive tech and software as well.

[tomosu]

They should give a no frills option to disable all AI for the users that dislike it. After all, Firefox should be about user choice. A better solution than just one on/off switch for AI would be a whole tab in the Settings with a toggle for AI at the top.This way users get more granular control while keeping nice UX.

[0x0ada]

If it's going to be on then yes, it needs to be a first class option. However, there is NO reason why AI should be on by default. 

[Response]

The bubble will never pop. Stop living in fear of AI. Problem solved.

[ChimeraXIII]

I am not afraid. Im disgusted by the ethical trashfire of developmentand implementationof theses programs, ecological destruction and heavy association with hate groups like neo-nazis and pedophiles.

I adore technology and there is a place for machine learning. It sure as hell isn't in art, mental health services, or my browser harvesting my data like a grimdark wiretap.

Grow up and realize people who oppose Ai aren't luddites scared of technology. They are adults with genuine concerns about privacy, ethical development and social awareness.

[LindaLisdotter]

Well said. I was thinking of posting many of your points. 

[JustStopAISucks]

What is it with you people and "fear"?  Not everything is a phobia.  We are not "afraid" of AI, we just simply hate it.  And no, problem is NOT solved.   You sound vaccinated.

[raster]

AI out of Firefox! So many users do not want it. Keep it out! 

[zarapierce]

I completely understand your frustration with Mozilla’s recent changes and the introduction of AI features, especially given your long-standing loyalty to Firefox. It can be disappointing when a beloved platform shifts direction, especially when the community has voiced its concerns. AI technology, though polarizing, can be a valuable tool if implemented thoughtfully, but I agree that it’s crucial to consider the ethical implications of its use, including data privacy and environmental impact. I hope Mozilla listens to its user base and reverts these changes. If you're interested in learning more about AI’s role in tech and its future, you can check out my blog on How AI is Shaping Video Production

[0x0ada]

AI wrote this response, I can tell. 

[LindaLisdotter]

Yes, it's disappointing that FF has shifted to an unethical implementation of AI. Sure, AI can be useful, but the ethical considerations are extremely important. It should have been implemented as an opt in or better yet, as an add on. I am capable of futzing with my config, but I don't have the energy or time to do that. And once I do, people who shouldn't futz with their configs will ask me to help them and blame me, if they get it wrong. I want it to be easy for me and for everyone else who doesn't make a hobby of futzing with the guts of the software they use.

[Agentvirtuel]

Hello

For my part, i like to be able to take a look at a page before, eventually, to click on the page.

Addition, https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/ai-features-request-for-an-opt-in-update-model/m-p/113360...

[Devilpants]

It's shameful enough that this genAI slop was forced into the browser against the wishes of the majority userbase to please a vocal minority, but it's so much worse that it's opt-out -- and on top of that, that the people who don't want it had to go into about:config to disable it, instead of giving us a nice normal settings menu. It's disgusting and it reeks of sleazy desperation on the part of mozilla's out-of-touch leadership. It makes me wonder how much they are being paid by genAI grifters to do this.

[projektnano]

I find the whole AI, no matter where, highly disturbing and non-professional from Mozilla. They need to make it easier to completely remove it, which is why it should be an add-on instead. A browser is a browser, keep it that way.

[follycake]

Agree! This kind of stuff should really be an extension, not integrated directly within projects.

[Glaug-Eldare]

Enable AI to spy on you and force you to engage with it? 

[] Yes

[] Remind me later

[LGZ]

Adding these proprietary chatbots to Firefox conflicts with the Mozilla Manifesto, in particular Principals 2, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 10. It also conflicts with Firefox's marketing of, "Enhance your privacy," and "Privacy built in." It feels like Mozilla has abandoned it's principals by chasing the latest boondoggle. Mozilla should not be pushing AIs like ChatGPT and Copilot on users that are fundamentally at odds with it's purposes.

[Heavyboots]

As long as they continue to use ml for their AI settings, a search for "ml*enable" is a pretty good way to find the on/off toggles for anything and everything.

[gargarygary]

mozillas bitter harvest.

[bugAndy]

holy **bleep** literally

hell one of the reasons i switched to firefox was because of their reputation of no ai **bleep**, anf now they got the **bleep** fox bouncing on the dicks of brainless ai investors because i guess they lost their spines somewhere in the sewers

atp, the only reason im still on this **bleep** isnt even because of firefox, its because of ublock origin

and idgaf what anyone says; if i gotta do some bull**bleep** to disable useless ai features that were AUTOMATICALLY ENABLED without my knowledge, its annoying at best and shady as **bleep** at worst

[Dvd-Znf]

offtopic, but: i have never seen anyone censor in text by typing "**bleep**"
kinda wholesome :3 

[bugAndy]

i sadly must inform u that it is automatically censored 💔💔💔   a blurry censor bar is being forcibly slapped over my mouth every time i say **bleep** **bleep** bitch **bleep** bull**bleep** **bleep**ing and/or **bleep** 😞

edit: huh i guess it doesnt censor bitch

[Dynalkome]

I came here to share my disapproval as well, was browsing like normal when a massive pop-up randomly appeared giving me an AI summary of a link (wtf???) Why would I want this? Why would anyone want this? I went deep into my settings and turned off every single AI option I could find (they were all on by default btw) I'm beyond disappointed. Will be heavily considering alternative browsers if they ever pull something like this again. I'd prefer that AI was removed completely from my browser, but I guess the money they could earn from stuffing unnecessary AI bloat into firefox was too enticing?

[jyrikson00]

There's not an insignificant portion of the userbase who switched to firefox specifically to get away from Chromium. Why should the one browser built on different tools evolve to be the exact same thing? You seriously think you're going to get more customers by ignoring your own niche to chase a trend?

If it's an optional extension, everybody wins. There is literally no reason to incinerate all the goodwill you get from BOTH parties by making it not default.

[DogdyWizard]

I have visited this website just to support a post like OP's. If Firefox becomes an AI browser users will abandon it. Even suggesting this shows you have misunderstood your users.

[Glaug-Eldare]

If I said what I think Anthony Enzor-DeMeo should do, I'd be permanently banned. I still think he should do it.

[Zwei2x]

100% Agree, this goes against what Firefox is and will move people away from the browser.

[CHaSeD]

I wholeheartedly agree! I've been using Firefox for almost 20 years now, and this is the first time I've *ever* felt that it wasn't the browser I needed. Even in the era where there was some slowness, I knew with confidence that my browsing experience was good. Now though, I'm filled with doubts about Mozilla's commitment to privacy. Even if, and it's a very shaky if, all AI features are implemented as 100% optional, I cannot trust that they will remain so in perpetuity. Corporate greed knows no bounds, and all it takes is one delusional C-Suite suit to ruin decades of carefully built trust. At this point the genie is out of the bottle; only an apology with a promise to never implement any AI integration can offer the chance of rebuilding trust (not a guarentee, but a chance). But I can't imagine that happening, as MBAs are allergic to accountability and human decency. It's been nice Firefox, but it might be time for us to stop seeing each other.

[Chribs]

I'd like to make myself very clear to Mozilla here. 
You are playing with fire. You know other browsers are already doing this, Your Firefox browser is for those who DON'T want those browsers that waste their time and steal their data. It's for the users who wish they could have some actual privacy, no bloat, and certainly not AI. Yet, you constantly work against this for some reason?

Why do you always try adding new useless things, trying to chase the next 'trend', when all your users ever wanted, was for YouTube to stop stuttering just by scrolling through their feed. Please, work on Firefox, make it the browser everyone needs, not just another Opera/Chrome clone filled with AI and even more slow-downs. You are trying to destroy yourself for short-term interests that will lead you nowhere. 

[clownfishin]

Part of the appeal of the "billionaire-free since 2004" is that billionaires are out of touch idiots who constantly make bad decisions. Adding AI (that will scrape by design) to a privacy-and-user-focused browser is an out-of-touch bad decision.

I'll move browsers. I don't care if there's the global flag, especially because some have already shared turning it on doesn't matter. I left Chrome because it was a corporate-focused, resource-hogging, and user-hating browser. Sounds like Firefox is about to hit two of those three points as well with this AI stuff.

If you actually wanna be the user-focused browser, listen to your users and please don't fall into the money trap.

Your reputation and goodwill shouldn't just go to the highest buyer. That's what Firefox has been about since the beginning.

[BarleyParley]

I’m sorely disappointed we even have to have this conversation. AI has no place in the Firefox ecosystem, period. I’ll be looking for an alternative browser to be rid of this disgraceful program until the CEO cleans up his act. If I can’t find an alternative, I’ll resort to Steam’s web browser. Anything is better than this nonsense.

[maddiemarie2100]

I switched to Firefox because I wanted a greater degree of privacy and a lesser degree of annoying tech-bro nonsense. I'll gladly jump ship again if Firefox decides to start incorporating the bull**bleep** machine that is LLMs.

[sofiar]

No one wants AI. AI does not work and is not useful. Do not add AI to Firefox.

If Firefox becomes focused on AI I will no longer use it and I will no longer recommend it.

[orio]

Agreed!

[Zidentia]

If they incorporate AI into the browser I am out. I just came back to Firefox from Opera after seeing a huge increase in spam. I used Firefox and I work with AI and it is not the Savior people make it out to be. It makes mistakes,a lot of mistakes because it does nothing but regurgitate internet scrapings. It can be useful for automating tasks but we already had that. AI will reach a pinnacle in the next five years due to energy usage and the reality of the world not having the grid to support it. 

[No_AI]

Absolutely no AI / botslop in the browser. No one wants this but CEOs. I've used Firefox for decades now, but will reconsider if these proposed changes are implemented.  

[No_AI]

And yes, I did just make an account to say this.