06-21-2024
11:55 AM
- last edited on
10-18-2024
02:19 PM
by
Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-18-2024 02:08 PM
Do I want AI in Firefox?
I would rather set myself on fire.
Please keep it out. Yes, even as an "option".
09-18-2024 02:45 PM
No.
09-18-2024 02:52 PM
Good heavens, why would you? I switched to Firefox precisely to get away from all of this earth-murdering, soul-destroying, profit-worshiping madness. Look to who your user-base actually is, Mozilla. You'll find your answers.
09-18-2024 03:35 PM
No more AI crap. We're already filling the internet with garbage and killing the environment as it is
09-18-2024 05:37 PM
you **bleep**ing up the perfect browser !
09-18-2024 05:46 PM
i already stopped using duckduckgo because of the a.i crap they added ,im thinking **bleep** can computer completely ! this would be final straw !
09-18-2024 06:03 PM
Please do not? The only reason I use Firefox still is because it does not have AI. Thank you for not putting AI in it❤️.
09-18-2024 06:47 PM
Don't do this. Don't do this. I have been trying to actively avoid using services that use AI. I would rather not have to avoid using Firefox.
09-18-2024 07:06 PM
1. Add keyboard shortcut to toggle AI services sidebar.
2. Visual feedback on focus in chat input box.
09-18-2024 07:30 PM
Please do not alienate your loyal users by jumping on the terrible AI train. We do not want this, we did not ask for it, distinguish yourself by not buying into the bull**bleep** and falling for the lemon of AI.
09-18-2024 08:00 PM
I am opposed to the current use of generative AI not only because it steals works from real humans with zero credit given but it also uses a lot of energy and other resources to function. I am using Firefox over any of the other search engines out there in part because your browser is not forcing this "feature" on its users by default.
09-18-2024 08:21 PM
Yeah, gonna have to jump in on this to say ABSOLUTELY NO. You've built up a massive amount of good will and support, with many wanting to push to make Firefox everyone's default browser. Do not throw this all away for a quick buck. You are about to burn down everything you've worked to build with no way to ever recover. No. Do Not.
DO NOT ADD AI.
09-18-2024 08:58 PM
please please please don't!!! most of the reason I use firefox is because it has good features and privacy settings. generative AI uses ridiculous amounts of power, is fueled by uncredited work, and (if google's AI feature is any proof) often generates potentially dangerous misinformation.
09-18-2024 10:01 PM
Please don't.
09-19-2024 12:24 AM
**bleep** no, like holy **bleep**, this is the worst possible idea. Find whoever suggested this and throw their entire person into the trash can and never speak about this again.
09-19-2024 04:42 AM
Please don't. Ai has shown to be bull**bleep** that has only worsen the diferent programs where it's being added. For the good of the users of firefox don't add it
09-19-2024 05:48 AM
NO DO NOT DO THIS! IF I WANT AI, I WILL SEEK IT OUT!
09-19-2024 06:18 AM
Don't do this, please.
09-19-2024 08:52 AM
Bad idea - not only are the ethics generally whack but AI searches return horrendous results and generative AI can't do anything I don't want to do.
It's also wildly unpopular as a concept with your userbase.
09-19-2024 09:41 AM
Please give us an opportunity to disable it completely.
09-19-2024 04:06 PM
NO
09-19-2024 04:45 PM
AI chatbots send the wrong idea of the future of the internet. Diminishing customer service jobs, connection and oversight, with far too many opportunities for corporate interference and biased training data. Bots are frustrating to interact with both in cases of malware and the new "standard" of "web assistants", I've never left a conversation with a bot that satisfied my questions or needs. On top of that, AI technology is powered by environmental disasters, just like bitcoin before it. Not a direction I'd like to see Firefox go in.
09-19-2024 05:09 PM
Please do not add AI to Firefox, it's one of the pillars of a good internet experience and I don't want that to change!
09-19-2024 05:16 PM
Hello Mozilla. The reason I prefer using Mozilla products like Firefox is because you don't usually add this kind of bull**bleep**. Your product appeals to the user who wants to escape from the en**bleep**tification other companies are filling their products with. Mozilla has a really good thing going on with Firefox being a perfectly usable browser that doesn't require giving up most of my privacy and data. Don't ruin it with AI. You know what the people want? I personally want tab workspaces, like the ones Opera has ❤️
09-19-2024 06:21 PM
Unnecessary; AI made Google search more confusing and irrelevant.
09-19-2024 07:06 PM
I use the mozilla vpn service. I prefer forefox to any other browser for it's ease of use and focus on it's customers base over shareholders. If ai is implemented I will be cancelling my vpn with Mozilla and not giving them my money. Do not implement AI.
09-19-2024 07:13 PM
Looking through the replies and not seeing a single customer of Mozilla saying they wouldn't even enjoy it, let alone use it, means that if they go ahead with it anyway, I'll sleep like a baby switching to a different browser and vpn.
09-19-2024 10:45 PM
Dear God no. It's unnecessary, annoying, invasive, and wastes ridiculous amounts of energy. It will actively make me not use your browser.
09-20-2024 02:30 AM
NOBODY is asking for this, how about you all focus on actually improving the browser instead of going down the latest fad?
09-20-2024 07:46 AM
Absolutely not. AI is godawful on so many levels and I will never use it.
09-20-2024 08:08 AM
There are a lot of dumb AIs in this thread. No, I'm not going to go back and look for every AI comment because that would make me stupid too. But they need to be called out. Here, I will pick one AT RANDOM: VildaVedo. VildaVedo's comment is completely wrong, full of lies, and probably made by an AI.
09-20-2024 08:09 AM
There are a lot of obvious AIs in this thread. No, I'm not going to go back and look for every AI comment because that would make me stupid too. But they need to be called out and shamed. Here, I will pick one AT RANDOM: VildaVedo. VildaVedo's comment is completely wrong, full of lies, and probably made by an AI.
09-20-2024 08:57 AM
To any"one" (not real people) who comments in support of this "AI" without any actual helpful use cases or grounded reality (yes, there could be some real use for some actual AI): you EXPLICITLY give me permission to use your words, content, and likeness in my LLM. Don't worry, my LLM model is actually highly energy efficient. It's only a few lines of code! It's not plagiarism... it's AI model training. It's not defamation... the AI model was just hallucinating and will be fixed in the Future(tm) I promise (wink). Sorry, I'm not making the rules... you are!
(this is founded on the principal of the Golden Rule. If you don't like the Golden Rule and are against "AI" then I shall treat you respectfully - however you wish to be treated. Those that don't like the Golden Rule but are in favor of all/most AI: I shall treat them the same - but they obviously wish for me to take all of their content and likeness and take all of their energy, water, food, being outside while "lying" to them. YES IT IS FOR ME TO DECIDE - THEY SAID IT WAS OKAY!)
09-20-2024 09:35 AM
Slava Ukraini!
09-20-2024 02:24 PM
I think most of my feelings have been covered already by other people, but just to reiterate: this is an incredibly stupid and harmful idea. Drop it, or I'm leaving Firefox - and I'm far from alone in saying that.
09-20-2024 06:38 PM
this is unfathomably stupid. firefox has as a whole been built by catering to people who explicitly despise having their data scraped to be shovelled into algorithms, weather its advertisement ones, tracking ones, or both rolled into one and made 17x as enviornmentally harmful that we now call "artifical intellegence". literally **bleep**ing 0 of the userbase of firefox wants this. you have to be so **bleep**ing out of touch to think for even a seccond this would be recieved well. yeah man. **bleep** over ur entire stupid browser to further support a morally unethical, enviornmentally harmful, completely **bleep**ing useless feature. yeah. ok.
09-20-2024 06:55 PM - edited 09-20-2024 06:57 PM
I hope you do not do this, because one of the reasons Firefox is my preferred web browser is that it does not / has fewer of these AI integrations that I find irritating and not useful to me at all.
Given your user demographic, I think this would be a terrible idea. Literally created this account to say no no thank you please
09-20-2024 08:57 PM
Please don't do it, the main reason I use Firefox is because I'm sick of the rampant AI on Google
09-21-2024 02:44 AM
Please don't add AI features to Firefox, there are so many other places to get AI and it's getting harder to find places that aren't affected by AI. Please keep Firefox one of those places.
09-21-2024 07:01 AM
Please no. AI is not a useful feature; it is not helpful for spellchecking, fact-finding, or even auto-completing responses. This is because AI is not actually "intelligent," it's just offering the statistically most likely output. And especially for a model trained on data that is pulled from wherever it can, that isn't properly sourced or curated to apply to specific lines of inquiry, the "statistically most likely" answer to a question is often a link to Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up."
This isn't even touching on the environmental impact of churning through all that data for each response. Or the privacy concerns of how that data is gathered, considering the "update" that offers AI as a choice is almost always followed by a forceful integration that gives the AI features permission to access everything on the user's device. AI is spyware wrapped in a shiny layer of convenience, except even the convenient aspects are unreliable at best.
I have recommended Firefox to people for years, pointing to its focus on user customization, protections, and privacy. Adding AI to Firefox is certainly not the decision I would have expected. I hope it is reversed soon. I would be honestly saddened to give it up. But AI is a feature I emphatically do not want. I have seen too many websites and services begin with "you can opt-out" only to follow with "actually, you can't opt-out anymore" to trust a supposedly voluntary feature will remain so.