Share your feedback on the AI services experiment in Nightly

[asafko]

Hi folks, 

In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it. 

If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here). 

We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.

Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!

[November]

Judging by Firefox's past track record... that's optimistic of you.

[Onko]

This is a terrible idea.

I need my browser to do what I want it to do, rather than letting a glorified autocorrect try to interpret things.

I also need a browser that is secure, and does not try to learn from my habits or sell my data.

AI integration spits in the face of both needs. I am fully willing to manually control my computer rather than save a little time letting a different computer have any control.

This is in addition to the plethora of ethical and environmental issues that I have with generative AI

[Onko]

Remember that Firefox currently stands out by not being infested with corporate garbage, which is a draw for everyone that I know that uses the browser. Do not let go of what makes Firefox special.

[Geekofthegalaxy]

I use firefox because of it’s respect for its users and AI is built on stolen models and is not guaranteed to provide correct information (as a family being made ill after using an alleged ai generated foraging book or the lawyer that cited nonexistent cases). AI being integrated into windows has only made the products less reliable so please do not add ai

[Nat0327]

So true, Windows trying to force us to be complacent with copilot (aside from it also frying my SSD) is why I jumped ship to Linux.

[Nat0327]

I see the experiment is still there (as of Friday September 13 2024 11:42 pm EST). This thread was started on June 21 2024. I've begun looking into alternative browsers, and I very seriously doubt I'm the only one. Maybe I'll go back to Vivaldi.

[Uberprutser]

Vivaldi has spoken out against using "ai" in their browser 🙂

But I wonder if Mozilla plans to get paid by the "ai" companies. They do have a lot of money, and perhaps they just want a slice of that cash pie 🙂

[Byrdie]

AI Integration in other products has been a disaster, especially for search engines - AI engines hallucinate information and are designed to prevent users from visiting sites with further information. I am strongly against the use of neural network integration as a part of any search engines, as it goes against the core concept of using a search engine (as in, using it as a directory for other websites). Please do not integrate generative AI/Neural networking into Mozilla. You will lose the swathe of customers who are using your engine specifically because it doesn't have any AI/Neural networking features.

[FillerName]

This!! "AI" features are a race to the bottom for peoples' minds. Things being quicker is not worth anything if the quick results are inaccurate or spreading misinformation.

[Peterpants]

I have used Firefox for over a decade. If this feature becomes a permanent addition I will be uninstalling Firefox from all my devices and start recommending all my contacts to do the same

[Hater2000000000]

Same!

[Hater2000000000]

AI is a stupid overhyped feature that is useless & doesn’t work at best and at worst spreads dangerous and potentially harmful information

dont do this. No one wants it. except maybe weird tech bros who don’t understand that chat bots are not a crazy new concept, and the only reason they’re this into it is cause of $$$$$

Every company thinks they need some AI feature to produce as much money as possible and it is clear to consumers that’s what it’s for and nothing else. It adds nothing positive to the experience, just another thing to scroll past.

Please just keep your browser the way it is. We don’t want constant updates, besides for security, we want the thing we signed up for originally. If you add too much stuff then it’s no longer what we started using it for and usually just makes it worse.

When will tech developers realize this? We don’t want perpetual changes. We don’t yall to perpetually add more and more features. We just want the thing we signed up to get. Just make it good the first time and maintenance it when needed. Web 3.0 sucks. We’ll never get the beautiful HTMLscape of the 90’s and early 2000’s back and everyone except advertisers suffer every day for it. Please for the love of God just stop adding unnecessary features. 

I stopped using Google for the AI stuff and I guess I will have to stop using Firefox too cause I don’t support software that’s made with straight up plagiarism. Find me an generational artificial intelligence program that did not scrape and plagiarize peoples work and doesn’t waste electricity, water, and drive up the prices of every piece of hardware it requires to run it and MAYBE, maybe it would be JUST ok at best, cause like at the end of the day code doesn’t know how to “fact check” information and we are already seeing crazy fake stuff all over the web because of it being “quick cash.” Saving 30 seconds reading generated summary instead of the actual results I asked for is simply not worth just not at all being sure if the generation is accurate and having to check the results anyway, and knowing the software was made by dumping tons and tons of pre-existing written works into a database (AKA plagiarism).

[Hater2000000000]

everytime an AI feature is added an angel gets hit by a car 

[troubled-pasta]

Please don't. Nobody wanted AI in the first place, it's value was purely speculative and TO THIS DAY nobody can identify the supposed multi-billion dollar problem this supposed 'multi-billion dollar industry' is supposed to solve.

Microsoft and Google are caught in a race to the bottom to see who can bleed the most money out of their users while delivering as little product or service as possible, AI is just a symptom of the terminal disease they both have.

I would like to think that Mozilla, whose ENTIRE ETHOS is doing things properly and not just making a quick buck at the expense of users would understand why emulating that behaviour spits in the face of your customers.

[troubled-pasta]

Much like what everyone else is saying, if you implement AI I'm done with Firefox for good. Hope whatever paycheck you're getting for it is worth not having a userbase at the end of it.

[K-RAM]

Why the absolute ELBOW would you do this. Please keep AI tf out of Mozilla.

Sidenote: Is this why every time I open Firefox for the last month, it's been using 40-45% CPU and GPU on nothing at all  (literally even when I'm not using my computer, but firefox is open)??? Am I in some kind of test group??? STOP

[PurgingSmuggler]

!! I noticed that too! Not a fan.

[carro179]

jesus christ NO. **bleep** AI. I DON'T WANT IT IMPLEMENTED ON FIREFOX. I DON'T WANT ANY CHATGPT OR CHATGPT-LIKES ON ANY OFY SOFTWARE

A move like this WILL make me move browsers

[carro179]

I made an account purely for this. That's how strongly I feel about it

[WingsofFire]

Please please PLEASE DON'T DO THIS. Me and people I know have stuck with firefox for so long because it didn't shove in things like AI. Why would you do this? Just don't do this please.

[dog1]

people called them out on mastodon, and they stopped posting there for awhile LMFAO.

[burai]

No please, ai is being stuffed everywhere and some of us want none of it. Please keep it entirely off of Firefox, this is a deal breaker for me

[burai]

I would also add any implementation would greatly harm my trust in the foundation, Wich cannot be fixed by simply "going back"

[Maycelium]

I advise AGAINST implementing an AI feature. Guys. C'mon. I know that AI is The Thing and there's a lot of pressure to add it so that you stay current and in with the times, but do not. Stay strong, stay true. Do not add ai. Firefox is known as the browser that doesn't have any bull and doesn't take advantage of its users. That's your reputation. 

[jahtnamas]

admin jon what the hell are you doing to the comments here, that's hella suspicious

[InvisibleSpork]

I don't want any AI here. I've seen enough AI creep to know that "optional AI" is a foot in the door strategy, and then it becomes a non-optional part of the user interface but you "don't have to use it," and then it becomes something you can't opt out of sharing data with, and then there are constant pushes and popups and redirects to use it and replace regular searches with asking AI and on and on. (This isn't even touching on the fact that whenever I've had to use AI it's just. Not good at what it claims to do. Whatever option it's replacing was better, and I have no reason to believe that this time, oh THIS time it's gonna be different we swear.)

If I wanted to be part of this AI bubble I would use chrome and gemini or whatever. The reason I use firefox is because it's NOT part of this kind of trend. It's already so easy to access AI if that is what I choose to do. It's almost unavoidable. What's hard is finding a place that's NOT trying to force me into using it. In my opinion that's what firefox is offering that sets it apart from other browsers.

[Uberprutser]

Fyi; Vivaldi has spoken out against using "ai" in their browser. But it's Chromium based.....

[risingstars]

Please do not fully implement this; no one likes AI "features", and if they do their opinion is not worth the air it took to speak it. As with other company's so-called "helpful" AI "features", this will only fail catastrophically, and does no good whatsoever. AI is not needed! You are actively driving away users from using your service by implementing this at all, even if it's an optional experiment right now.

If Firefox implements this fully I will be deleting it from my computer and mobile device. I'm totally fine with switching to some other search engine if this one starts being just as horrible as any other one.

[risingstars]

wow I was completely incoherent, but my message is still the same: no AI, or else I fly (as in leave)

[no_underscores]

It's a stupid fad that is built on a industrial scale copyright infringement and violates all of the norms and values that the internet is based on, and it is helping destroy the internet by clogging it up with worthless spam.

There's something horribly rotten inside any organization that sees these things as part of their future.

[ForgedinStars]

I agree with you on this, not to mention that AI also takes a STUPID amount of resources to generate stuff and companies don't care that they are basically killing the people that support them

[VildaVedo]

I absolutely love this! I don’t need to copy and paste text from one tab to another and then "Summarize XYZ." I can just select the text and click!

[RainbowCrows]

You can already not have to copy and paste (oh the horror) just by using any of the umpty other browsers that have AI garbage in them.

Let Mozilla keep Firefox pure for the rest of us, and faff off to some other browser if you (rolling my eyes) can't live without an AI "assistant" built into yours.

[grimmdog]

i will stop using firefox if AI integration is added

[JM_Rivera]

Me too! ❤️ :^D

[grindstm]

Great feature! The popup menu for generating the prompt is really useful. Can I access and modify these prompts, or add more to the list? Thanks for integrating this.

[RainbowCrows]

If you want AI in your browser so bad, please switch to one of the browsers that already has AI integration. And may your moment of realization dawn before AI destroys the ability of service-sector humans and creative-endeavor-sector humans to earn even a partial living wage -- not to mention the environmental impacts of the processing power needed to make AI function. I mean, who wouldn't choose the shiny button that destabilizes society? IT'S NEW AND SHINY!

[nonetrix1]

Ollama would be great, not completely hostile to this idea but I would like to run the AI locally personally. If I was really nitpicky prefer it to be opt-in and a extension instead, but adding Ollama support so I can use my GPU would be enough

[lackey]

Isn't it funny that Mozilla actually hid the "local" option when they pushed this experiment to the default branch? Some things (OpenAI and Google) are more important than others

[nichirinbullets]

Just know that the main reason why many users chose Mozilla in the first place was due to the lack of AI. You'll lose a good chunk of your userbase by proceeding with these changes.