06-21-2024 11:55 AM - last edited on 10-18-2024 02:19 PM by Jon
Hi folks,
In the next few days, we will start the Nightly experiment which provides easy access to AI services from the sidebar. This functionality is entirely optional, and it’s there to see if it’s a helpful addition to Firefox. It is not built into any core functionality and needs to be turned on by you to see it.
If you want to try the experiment, activate it via Nightly Settings > Firefox Labs (please see full instructions here).
We’d love to hear your feedback once you try out the feature, and we’re open to all your ideas and thoughts, whether it’s small tweaks to the current experience or big, creative suggestions that could boost your productivity and make accessing your favorite tools and services in Firefox even easier.
Thanks so much for helping us improve Firefox!
09-09-2024 08:15 PM
you're a web browser. your job is to render web pages, download files, and stay out of the user's way while doing so.
adding AI "features" does literally none of these things.
stop trying to make Firefox into a fun toy; a web browser should be a streamlined tool.
09-09-2024 08:17 PM
AI Is the worst idea for Firefox. For a browser that is much less **bleep**ty than many of the alternatives. The inclusion of AI into the Firefox experience would have me strongly reconsider both using and recommending it. The internet does NOT need more AI. It needs ease of access, privacy, and human creativity. AI would completely nix the point of all of that.
09-09-2024 08:19 PM
No AI in Firefox!
09-09-2024 08:17 PM
No thank you. Do not put this in the normal distro. AI is not the way of the future, it represents everything I want to AVOID by using firefox. if there is a small percentage of users who want these tools they can get them through plug ins.
09-09-2024 08:21 PM
please don't. already got enough AI junk clogging up everything else.
09-09-2024 08:22 PM
If this gets added, I’ll probably be leaving Firefox. I’m not interested in more AI BS in my life. I use Firefox specifically because you all promise privacy. Nothing about AI offers that. Do not implement this.
09-09-2024 08:22 PM
please no ai in firefox. please
no. i've had enough,
it's everywhere and
it's
useless!
09-09-2024 08:25 PM
Please don't do this. "AI" gets things half right as in spelling "robusness" and giving hands 7 fingers. Nothing good will come of this
09-09-2024 08:28 PM
Please do not add AI services to Firefox.
09-09-2024 08:30 PM
Nobody wants this. It involves theft of intellectual property and environmental devastation. Stop now.
09-09-2024 08:32 PM
AI is antithetical to everything Firefox is supposed to be striving to be. It erodes privacy, steals from users, and is an all-around greedy cash grab. I can't in good conscience recommend Firefox anymore if it's going to go down this path.
09-09-2024 08:32 PM
Please, please don't make this a feature! Part of why I love using Firefox is the privacy and the ability to add extensions easily, but a massive part of why I use Firefox is the lack of AI involved!! Not only is AI scrapping the Internet for its frankly replies to most questions (that range from useless to nonsense to just misinformative to just downright dangerous), but it's also terrible for the environment, not sustainable, and I absolutely do not trust any AI company as they don't care about the people who's livelihoods are getting screwed over by AI (specifically writers and artists).
Please, do not add an AI function to Firefox.
09-09-2024 08:33 PM
Presenting a whole list of *unethical* AI services right up front seems to directly undermine Mozilla's goal to encourage ethical AI, surely?
Just list "ethical" AI sources here, or make it an optional extension that people can choose to install if they wish, otherwise you're just jumping on the bandwagon and encouraging all the badness that most of us use Firefox to avoid.
09-09-2024 08:34 PM
Absolutely no "AI" should be acceptable in firefox.
LLMs are just plagiarism machines/data scrapers that are untrustworthy, and have frequently produced not only wrong information, but actively harmful information. Just look at all the dangerous plant foraging books they're having to constantly purge on amazon. You cannot in any way make me or many others accept this.
There is no future where I'd be willing to use these horrendous things. If not for the harmful misinformation they put out, then just for the fact that they're a Significant contributor to climate change. The amount of power and water these LLMs use is staggering and horrific.
I can always find another, privacy respecting browser. Because this is anything but.
09-09-2024 08:39 PM
As someone who wants a private internet, please don't do this. I moved to Firefox for just this, and I am pretty sure this will end in less users in general, and less happy users. AI has environmental concerns, ethical concerns (Great article here), and overall copyright concerns.
09-09-2024 08:40 PM
Firefox doesn't need to use AI to be a good product. AI is detrimental to the environment and isn't necessary for a search engine. I have been championing this browser for over 20 yesrs to everyone I know. If Firefox starts buying into the hooey around AI I'll have to reconsider and look for other browsers.
09-09-2024 08:41 PM
PLEASE NO. i'm already so sick of gemini and gpt and every other ai. even duckduckgo has one now, and it too is awful. cmon. stop it.
09-09-2024 08:41 PM - edited 09-09-2024 08:44 PM
I hate using the term "slippery slope", but this is one. Doing this is a risk of normalising "ai summaries", which is a bad idea, not only because these don't don't summarise, they abbreviate, which very often causes a dangerous loss of context. We also know that over-reliance on these features lowers overall skill of people to absorb and critically analyse information. Firefox as a project should try to set an example here, to try to be better.
Besides all of this, no one is actually asking for a functionality like this. It has been shown that the term "ai" doesn't even have a positive connotation in consumers' minds. What is the actual reason to do this? I'd hope it's not because of some misguided need to put "ai" onto the product label.
09-09-2024 08:43 PM
Please no, AI assisted search is not worth the social or the environmental cost, I don’t want to feel so guilty using Firefox that I have to start using Ecosia
09-09-2024 08:45 PM - edited 09-10-2024 06:54 PM
Mozilla is a not-for-profit company that exists at least partly on the generosity of donations. Taking that money and squandering it on the development of AI junk like this is a slap in the face to everyone who has supported your company and your software. As others have already pointed out, this initiative contradicts Mozilla's very mission.
On top of that, Firefox's marketshare is already dire, and this feature will absolutely drive away many of your most dedicated users. Please reconsider.
09-09-2024 08:46 PM
Please don't. There are better things to focus on than AI.
09-09-2024 08:49 PM
Please, no. A lot of people use Firefox to get AWAY from this kind of **bleep**. If we wanted it, we'd use Chrome. Don't ruin your leg up on the competition.
09-09-2024 08:50 PM
Absolutely the hell not. AI is almost universally built on stealing from writers and artists, and I hate having it shoved in my face. I love using Firefox and don't want this to be the reason I drop it. Thus far, Firefox has been dedicated to protecting my data and privacy on a level far above every other browser. I would hate to see them do an abrupt about-face and engage with technology that is nothing but a parasite.
09-09-2024 08:46 PM - edited 09-09-2024 08:52 PM
No, absolutely not. I moved to Firefox because I don't want A.I. It's exploitative, it's environmentally disastrous, and I'm happy with what Firefox already provides. I chose Firefox because it focused on privacy; I don't want my data utilised by A.I. Your data use policies are why I chose Firefox. I will absolutely walk away if Firefox pivots towards A.I.
09-09-2024 08:51 PM
Please, please, please remove this. Firefox is the only option left WITHOUT AI. Its the best alternative we have to NOT USE AI. Please shut this down asap.
09-09-2024 08:53 PM
Do not do this.
09-09-2024 08:56 PM
NO NO NO WE HATE AI
09-09-2024 08:58 PM
nononono no. Hope that helps 🙂
09-09-2024 08:59 PM
Mozilla you are the last line of defense, do NOT falter to AI now. Please. Adding AI will make Firefox a worse browser while people look to you as a beacon of hope against the wave of Chromium. I'm not kidding. Don't do this. Please.
09-09-2024 08:59 PM
do not do it, it's so easy to not
09-09-2024 09:00 PM
Firefox has remained a beacon of independence from many things that other browsers like Chrome force by default. The fact that something like this is even being considered is very upsetting and the continued negative impact that AI is having across the board, by allowing AI even so much as a crack in the window the ability to force that window open fully grows immensely. I do not see any application where AI benefits the users overall and not doing damage to our privacy. This is a hard no from me.
09-09-2024 09:01 PM
100% NO
09-09-2024 09:10 PM
Please keep AI as far away from Firefox as you possibly can. Firefox is great and generative AI is (and always will be) terrible, and anybody who's done math can tell you what happens when you multiply a positive and a negative. Keep it away.
09-09-2024 09:11 PM
GET THE **bleep** OUT WITH THAT AI BULL**bleep**TT NOOOOOOOOOO
THE LACK OF **bleep**TY AI FEATURES IS WHY I USE THISS AUGH
09-09-2024 09:09 PM
Please please please keep "AI" as far as possible from Firefox. 🙏
09-09-2024 09:13 PM
Waste as much time & resources as you'd like on this garbage. If you want feedback: just keep it disabled by default (and extremely easy to disable if it accidentally gets turned on), and it won't bother me unduly.
09-09-2024 09:15 PM
Please dont. Good god every AI company is inherently unethical and desperate to get more training data any way it can. If someone actually wants to use an AI for whatever idiotic reason let them go to the AI site or make an extension.
09-09-2024 09:17 PM
Please, no.... No one wants this. I use Firefox because it DOESN'T have this
09-09-2024 09:17 PM
Waste of time, money, and resources chasing an over-hyped tech trend.
09-09-2024 09:18 PM
Firefox has always strived to be transparent and respect its users. Generative AI is so far from those values it's not even funny. Please reconsider.