You ereally MUST start treating your "Manage Bookmarks" utility as the TOOL IT NEEDS TO BE, instead of as the TOY it is now.
First of all, NO bookmark - and, ESPECIALLY, no FOLDER -- should be REMOVABLE (whether accidentally, or deliberately) without CONFIRMATION by the user.
And, while you're at it, the "Delete Folder" (or "Delete Bookmark" menu option should not be ANYWHERE NEAR the "Sort by Name" option. Right now, at least the first is RIGHT NEXT TO "Sort"! Not nly EASY to make a mistake; but CERTAIN to cause MANY of them...
I love FF; and have been using it for MANY years. So, as you might imagine, I have LOTS of bookmarks, and LOTS of folders. You see the problem?
Please; fix it!
Totally agree! Trying to search for exising bookmarks is a total disaster. FF's bookmark section is archaic at best, no sense of development to serve the end-user. For those of us who have been in webdev for decades, it's known as UX or user experience. The current bookmark section is written to serve their Mozilla's own developers, not the end-users.
And as always, if there is an actual, usable set of instructions, where is it hidden? Why isn't there a link icon or even a notes icon on the section linking a complete, usable, understandable instruction set so we can somehow creep into the mind(s) of those who wrote the code for it? Terrible communications skills.
RickyOOH, We don't need INSTRUCTIONS, we need a BULLET-PROOF way of "Managing Bookmarks."
BTW, "why not have a separate, expandable to full-screen, bookmark section/function "
We have this already: "Manage Bookmarks" (under the "Bookmarks" tab). But it is a place where bookmarks go to GET EASILY and PERMANENTLY LOST.
It just needs to be re-purposed as a basic FF "TOOL" (like its developers' tools).
>>A simple "Sort" button would help. <<
There IS a "Sort" sub-menu option; under "Manage Bookmarks" ("Bookmarks" tab).
But it's RIGHT NEXT TO the "Delete Folder" option!!! Is this a "design-for-failure," or what?
But, INADVERTENT drag-and-drop is just as destructive as ANYaction that ACCIDENTALLY deletes a folder.
Just a thought, but why not have a separate, expandable to full-screen, bookmark section/function where it all isn't squashed into a tiny little section on the right column???
TELL YOUR DEVS TO START THINKING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE END USERS; NOT SINGULARLY FROM THAT OF THE CODE WRITERS.
I enjoy firefox and try to use it as my main browser. HOWEVER, it is a PIA to find a bookmark in this browser. There is no simple way to navigate through all my folders and links. Are we supposed to use the manage bookmarks to find a link? If so, it's not a great option. Can we just have a nice simple way to navigate folders, sub-folders and links?
bookmark management is POOR, as if written by someone with almost no experience in UI.
when searching for bookmarks, it is impossible to find where a bookmark lives. the only to find out it to click the bookmark, after which the "Add bookmark" dialog shows - among other things - a tree that is difficult to navigate.
bookmark management is a shame.
Whoever writes/maintains the Bookmarks section appears to NOT pay attention to current UX/UI methods. What they have now reminds me of the work dev'd using EDLIN back in the 80's. It's archaic at best. it wastes a lot of user time. There is no easily accessible documentation or instructions. Searching it is a disaster, as is sorting. And the layout is embarrassing.
Maybe it's time for a third party to get into the game, write a replacement and license it to Mozilla. It appears they are never going to do anything to fix it.
Long enough to ...... well, let's just say "Long Enough". It's terrible to see problems and issues we solved long ago to re-appear as 'new'. I would hate to see the curriculum(s) used today for training developers. For starters, it's not possible they are required to take any communication courses (writing, grammar (including grammatical construction), logic, stats, for starters. I'm just not that old to not know the differences.
Here's my favorite example (along the lines you mention).
When Microsoft published its programming standards, it emphasized the point that, when presenting a User with a choice, the default option should always be "No" (if the User accidental selects that, he can re-submit the request; no blood, no foul).
But, in the drop-down Options menu of Microsoft's own File Manager (as File Explorer was called, back then), the pre-selected option for "Delete" was "Yes"!
Today, we aren't even asked...
Completely agree. I've been using Firefox since the beginning (since before the beginning, when it was Netscape...). In all those years, the bookmark management tool has improved very little.
I don't know how many bookmarks you have, but I have 255,462 bookmarks in my Firefox browser, so I need a better solution rather than the many workarounds I have developed. (You can find the exact number going to "about:support", scrolling down to the section labeled "Places Database", and clicking on the button marked "Show Statistics".)
The developers do not seem to recognize the importance of bookmarks. Our bookmarks are our lives, sometimes!
In past years, I have lost bookmarks which were incredibly valuable, which I could never retrieve--especially when Firefox crashed. Now, it's better, but it still needs a lot of improvement...
I hope these fit with your ideas, because I think they could all make the Bookmark Management System in Firefox ten thousand times better than it is!