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uähhh

AngryBird_69 — Sat, 28 Dec 2024 21:14:19 GMT

I am very sorry to have to say this, but I am really angry. I have known Thunderbird since the beginning of 2000. I didn't use it because important functions were not available. Now that I am more or less forced to switch to Linux, everything depends on being able to use a decent and powerful email client. What is available? Thunderbird by default. But it's still not really usable 25 years later for many reasons. The most important reason: the import wizard is not usable. How do you want to grow the user community if you can't import properly, please? I can't import 4000 emails manually. The Flatpak version doesn't even allow you to import individual eml files via drag 'n' drop. Are you crazy? Are you surprised that only 3% of all users are willing to donate, but don't even provide the most necessary entry help? - Notice the mistake.

Now there is also the fact that I now have 6 email accounts and the program is not able to filter unread emails across all 6 accounts. You have to define a corresponding search folder for each account. I am losing faith.

You could have won a donor with me. I donate monthly for the Linux distribution, for KeePassXC and for LibreOffice. But not like this, folks.

Basically, you're jeopardizing my entire project to switch from Windows to Linux. - I'm really stunned.

Best regards

Re: uähhh

wsmwk — Sun, 29 Dec 2024 05:08:28 GMT

Every software comes with baggage. For example flatpak is relatively new so it still has issues - if it isn't meeting your needs than perhaps best to use a different method of install?

But I'm not totally understanding your import issue - in the same paragraph you say "I didn't use it because important functions were not available" but then say import doesn't work. What are you importing from if you weren't using Thunderbird?

Re: uähhh

wsm — Fri, 02 Jan 2026 01:53:32 GMT

We're very much interested in specifics, so that we can address your concerns. And yes, switching OS can be difficult enough.

So I pose the same question to you @JohnMichelle as I posed to @AngryBird_69, for your purposes, from what system is Thunderbird unable to import?

Re: uähhh

AngryBird_69 — Tue, 13 Jan 2026 18:35:35 GMT

@wsm
Hello there,

I'm coming from eM-Client https://de.emclient.com/ (if you want to take a look).

Unfortunately, I couldn't import any of the 4000 .elm files or items. I had to manually export and import everything into deeply nested folder structures. This also meant creating countless folders.

Further points of criticism:

The properties of a parent folder are not inherited by the child folders. I had to configure every **bleep** folder manually.
And who the hell in your project team came up with the idea of using “Participants” as column names instead of the usual ‘From’ and “To” columns? - There are good reasons for using “from” and “to.”
And then there was the date... I just couldn't believe it. The server date was selected as the default instead of the client's receipt timestamp. That made a difference of up to two hours when I compared my old system with the first laboriously imported emails. Has no one ever noticed this before?

After 30 folders and their tedious configuration and importing of comparatively few emails, I stopped migrating.
Very, very frustrating, if I may say so. Didn't look at it for 25 years, felt like nothing happened for 25 years.

Encrypted emails were destroyed during the migration.
Email view only with a bright white background. - Who wants to work like that?

I'm really disappointed because it's preventing me from switching completely to Linux. ‌😞‌
But don't worry... Evolution, Betterbird... it's all the same, if your not using imap, but pop3.

Keep up the good work!

Re: uähhh

wsm — Mon, 19 Jan 2026 05:47:02 GMT

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools-ng/ is a very popular tool as you can tell by the number of user. It can handle import of .eml.

Your are correct, subfolders don't inherit properties from the parent. But you can change the properties of many folders quickly without touching individual folders. Please see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/appearance-panel-layout-message-list-card-view-tab#w_4-select-folders-to-apply-new-settings-to

Issues like this are best asked about in support at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/thunderbird