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    <title>topic When is Mozilla gonna ditch the Gecko browser engine for Servo? in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/92293#M35881</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Dear Mozilla and Firefox Team,&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You’re falling behind. Gecko isn’t cutting it anymore, and it’s embarrassing to see other engines like Ladybird getting more attention and progress than Servo. Instead of wasting time and money on AI projects no one cares about, why not focus on what actually matters? Collaborate with Igalia and the Linux Foundation. Bring back the people who worked on Servo or shift some of your current team to revive it. It’s time to make Servo the engine it was meant to be.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Mozilla’s been making bad decisions for years, and it’s killing Firefox. The Terms of Service incident is just one example of how out of touch you’ve become. Show people you’ve changed. Admit your mistakes. Start fresh. Retire Gecko. Revive Servo. Prove you still care about innovation and your users.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Stop wasting time and resources, just do better!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sincerely, A Frustrated Supporter&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 20:25:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Windows_Vista</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-04-03T20:25:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>When is Mozilla gonna ditch the Gecko browser engine for Servo?</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/92293#M35881</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Dear Mozilla and Firefox Team,&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You’re falling behind. Gecko isn’t cutting it anymore, and it’s embarrassing to see other engines like Ladybird getting more attention and progress than Servo. Instead of wasting time and money on AI projects no one cares about, why not focus on what actually matters? Collaborate with Igalia and the Linux Foundation. Bring back the people who worked on Servo or shift some of your current team to revive it. It’s time to make Servo the engine it was meant to be.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Mozilla’s been making bad decisions for years, and it’s killing Firefox. The Terms of Service incident is just one example of how out of touch you’ve become. Show people you’ve changed. Admit your mistakes. Start fresh. Retire Gecko. Revive Servo. Prove you still care about innovation and your users.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Stop wasting time and resources, just do better!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sincerely, A Frustrated Supporter&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 20:25:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/92293#M35881</guid>
      <dc:creator>Windows_Vista</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-04-03T20:25:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is Mozilla gonna ditch the Gecko browser engine for Servo?</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/92934#M36178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hmmm okay is there any supporters like Ladybird gets better each day, while Firefox counties to get worse.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 06:47:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/92934#M36178</guid>
      <dc:creator>Windows_Vista</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-04-09T06:47:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is Mozilla gonna ditch the Gecko browser engine for Servo?</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/94692#M36948</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Mozilla should try to make their tech more interoperable with other leading technologies&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; like C/C++, Java/JVM ecosystem, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;etc&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;by working with communities/companies/organizations&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; developing&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; or &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;using such tech&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Mozilla is already doing&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; it&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; with&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; some &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;existing companies like &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;KaiOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Technologies&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;, they aim to improve browser engine&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and features&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; used in &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;KaiOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;, improving security, pe&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;rformance and compatibility with modern web tech.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;KaiOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; is actually forked from now defunct &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;FirefoxOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; which &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;was designed as an open source alternative to Android and iOS, the goal was to&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; create a community developed smartphone operating system for emerging markets however it failed to compete &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;with Google and Apple, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;KaiOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Technologies forke&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;d &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;FirefoxOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and aimed to create a light weight operating system for feature phones so &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;KaiOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; wasn’t directly pitched agains&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;t Android and iOS, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;there&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; is a demand for such feature phones especially in emerging market&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;s&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; like India for several reason&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; like &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;affor&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;dability, simplicity and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;some other factors like many people like to use feature phone as their second phone and many don’t want to use smartphones because they don’t need it for their computing tasks&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;, famous example is Director Christopher Nolan who still rely on traditional computers(laptops/desktops) for his compu&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;ting needs. Mozilla should learn from their mistakes made on &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;FirefoxOS&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; project&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;, they need to pitch their products better by analyzing &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;current and future emerging market trends while providing &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;innovative products by focusing on&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; R&amp;amp;D &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;by &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;creating deep &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;global partnerships&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;with Universities, Res&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;e&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;arch Institutions,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; industry leaders working &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;on &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;and utilizing&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; such&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;technologies, Mozilla should also try to get more community contributions wo&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;rldwide.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;It should be much easier for developers/companies/organizations to c&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;reate solutions by utilizing the tools and resources available of their choice, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;for example better integration between Rust and C/C++, Java/JVM tech&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;will enable &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;development of &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;project&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;s&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; like new Firefox based on Servo&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; f&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;or browser engine&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and using Java/Scala/Groove/Kotlin/C++ for user interface&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and other elements, it will increase developer contribution as there will be &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;more developers from different &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;backgrounds willing to contribute to project of their choice utilizing &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;languages/frameworks and other tools &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;in which they are comfortable.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Mozilla can also do partnerships with companies who are willing to build custom version of Firefo&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;x by adding their own tech like &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;GenAI&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; features and Mozilla can certify and promote &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;these custom versions of Firefox on their own infrastructure after r&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;igorous testing to make sure that it follows their ethical a&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;nd community guidelines, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;for example &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Microsoft used Chromium open source &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;project&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; to build current version of Edge and integrated with their own tech &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;including AI tech like Co-Pilot so &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;a company like Elon Musk’s &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;xAI&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; might want to produce their own modified version of Firefox&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; with their own extensions and customizations&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; especially integration of &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;GenAI&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; tech like Grok but &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;maintaining&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and improving &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;any large open source app/tech&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; after forking it&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;can be a very time and resource consuming &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;daunting task&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;so Mozilla can step in to help in this process while&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; ensuring compatibility with existing open web and tech standards&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and earn revenue in this process and it also open the door for further improving&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; the&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; tech which Mozilla is developing because the company or the organization &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;will have access to that tech and can directly help by contributing to it. This&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; can also help in changing the Mozilla operating &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;process,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; which is currently less str&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;uctured, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Mozilla can take inspiration from other communit&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;ies like Eclipse &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Foundation specification process &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;and&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Java Community Process which will &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;be a more organized way while ensuring increased participation and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;contribution &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;from various organizations and companies&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; by providing a platform &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;for collaboration through dialogue&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;, discussion and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;innovation.&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Mozilla should &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;also try to diversify its revenue sources by starting other ventures like &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;an&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; open source and open standard&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; based advertising business which respects user’s privacy&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; while providing an alternative &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;to existing companies&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;,&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;there are some companies like &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Seedtag&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; and &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Matomo&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; who are focused on privacy-first advertising strategies but they aren’t v&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;ery successful compared to &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;companies like Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; Mozilla can try to change that with their &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;effort in this &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;domain by providing innovative solutions which can attract companies like OpenAI, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Anthropic, etc. These &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;high-tech&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; companies want new revenue source&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;s&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; to monetize their solutions&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; (ChatGPT, Claude)&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;and are hesitating to introduce ad-based revenue model because of concern of user privacy, product integrity, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;incentive misalignment, content &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;bias and manipulation which will result in reduced quality product&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; causing distrust &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;among their users &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;so t&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;hey would be happy to do partnership with someone&lt;/SPAN&gt; &lt;SPAN class=""&gt;who &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;has strong goodwill&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; like Mozilla who&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt; emphasizes values like privacy, openness, and the belief in the internet’s ability to enrich lives.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 17:24:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Suhail</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2025-04-29T17:24:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: When is Mozilla gonna ditch the Gecko browser engine for Servo?</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/117198#M45755</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What are new lines&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 23:46:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/when-is-mozilla-gonna-ditch-the-gecko-browser-engine-for-servo/m-p/117198#M45755</guid>
      <dc:creator>filip98</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-02-02T23:46:59Z</dc:date>
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