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Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 15:48:18 GMT

Hi everyone, my name is Ashley Thomas, and I’m a Product Manager at Firefox. We are in the early stages of redesigning Firefox Settings to help our users discover ways to shape their browsing experience. It is important to us at Mozilla that Firefox users have agency in accessing the web, whether choosing a default search engine, enabling browser dark mode or tuning the privacy options. To achieve this, we plan to create:

A modern, user-friendly design with intuitive navigation and search that will help you find and discover options that suit your needs.
Clear descriptions (and visuals as needed) of setting/configuration options that enable you to make informed choices.
An experience that highlights the value behind each feature and invokes a sense of confidence in using Firefox.

True to Mozilla’s roots, we are designing this in the open. Today, I’d like to share our latest concept for the Privacy & Security section on desktop to invite your input. We were thrilled to hear the excitement and positive feedback about our early designs in a recent Reddit thread and would love to continue that discussion here. This work is still in the early stages and may change before you experience it in the Firefox release as we iterate on internal and external feedback.

Concept: Privacy & Security Settings

We’re updating the top-level categories to help users quickly find what they are looking for. You’ll see the new list on the left of the screen. The screenshots below are specifically for the “Privacy & Security” settings.

The goal behind this new design is to reaffirm that Firefox always has your privacy in mind and already puts thoughtful defaults in place while giving the flexibility to customize based on your preferences. To achieve that, we have split the settings into two pages - a primary page with information on how you’re currently protected while offering the most common customization options and a secondary page geared towards more tech-savvy users. Increases in privacy protections come with an increased risk of certain websites or functionality not working correctly. Therefore, we feel that it is important to distinguish these as ‘Advanced settings.’

P&S Settings Main Page

P&S Settings Customize Page

These are early concepts, so expect them to change over time. You may also notice this doesn’t include all the existing options in our “Privacy & Security” section. We are not removing the options you don’t see here. Anything not included in the above design has simply been moved to another section of settings to improve discoverability.

Please let us know what you think!

This new concept is fresh off the press! We are reviewing it internally and reaching out to folks like yourselves for input. Privacy & security are critical parts of our product, we live by our Privacy promise, and we want to ensure everyone feels confident browsing with Firefox.

Thanks in advance for sharing your feedback. Once we're through with the early stages and ready to make the new settings design available in Firefox’s pre-release Nightly version, we will update this thread so you can test it out yourselves and provide feedback.

-Ashley

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Mutzu — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 16:51:19 GMT

What do you think about a dashboard to show an overview of the current settings?

https://denovers.com/blog/top-dashboard-design-examples-and-practices/

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Kvin — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:17:51 GMT

It's good that the design of the settings has begun to change, I like it in general, but I have a few questions:

Is it possible to add more categories?
Move more settings from about:config, for example, do not close the browser when closing the last tab, and close the tab when double-clicking, and other settings to move.
How can I make the search focus when opening the settings?
For the settings pages, add the appropriate logos of different foxes to make it nice?
Replace the category icons with completely new ones, because the icons have not changed for years?

Does this mean that we can also expect a new design and redesign, history pages, bookmarks, extension pages, libraries, about the program?
The return and addition of icons for menus and context menus?
And new icons, the browser, and the icons in the browser that are on the toolbar, as well as a new design of menus and context menus?
Thank you for your work and for your answers!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Synchro — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:28:18 GMT

I like it, looks nice and smooth. I just hope you will add some more preferences from about:config - other browsers have more options to be customised by regular users.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:30:50 GMT

Thanks for the suggestion @Mutzu . We'll add this as something to be looked at. If you're comfortable sharing, I'd love to learn more about what information you'd find most valuable to be included in a settings dashboard like this?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ivan1 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:49:20 GMT

If ANY functionality wont be missing, and you like the appearance, i dont mind, but you MUST bring back old history dialog! Im enough of removing functionality for no reason!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 17:53:21 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to review and write a detailed response! I'll take your suggestions around focusing the search on open, including more Fox icons, and more categories to our team for consideration. Are there certain categories you'd like to see? We are in the process of running usability testing to determine the right set of high level categories.

And thank you for the additional suggestions. This particular project is specific to updating the design for our existing settings. That means incorporating additional options (including ones from about:config) and updating the design in other parts of our app isn't included. However, I appreciate the callout for those. We'll add them as something to be looked at. There's another thread on Mozilla Connect about the menu icons.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Denir — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:05:12 GMT

Well if you are working on the UI, I would really like the compact mode to be an option in the settings itself, lot of people including myself don't really like the default density of UI, It's too big and looks ugly. A lot of people leave firefox just because of this. Compact mode however, looks better at least acceptable I would say. It should be an option in settings, let users decide what ui density they want please.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Halbour — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:39:03 GMT

Well, I'd say one thing - The "Have fun!" is a bit... weird.

Overall, I really like the redesign, though!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:42:19 GMT

Hi @ivan1 thank you for the feedback! There have been some concerns with the new history dialogue raised in another thread and they're on our radar.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 19:47:26 GMT

Thanks for your response and I'm glad to hear you like it. Are there particular preferences from about:config that you're interested in? We'll add this as something to be looked at. The work shown here is focused on updates to the design of our existing settings.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Vadim_k1337 — Thu, 29 Aug 2024 21:32:26 GMT

1) This cartoon fox logo should change color depending on the version,it should be gradient-blue in the night build of Firefox

2)Add a flag to disable the cartoon fox image to make the interface cleaner

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Hissymaster — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:08:26 GMT

I personally think the "Custom" and "customise" settings should be in "Advanced", move the non-custom items out of the advanced options. i also feel like there is not enough details shown in the nav-bar, it should be formatted something like Privacy And Security > DNS Over HTTPS> Advanced Settings, not Privacy and security > Advanced Settings.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

okay_okay — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:08:31 GMT

Really like the design! And the fox is a nice touch.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Synchro — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:15:02 GMT

browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab

browser.tabs.loadBookmarksInBackground

browser.bookmarks.openInTabClosesMenu

And it would also be great to have in Settings "Show Downloads Panel when download begins", "Always show Bookmarks Toolbar" etc. I think it's convenient when all settings are in one place.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Agentvirtuel — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:03:03 GMT

Hello

Take a look at https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/fully-support-web-usb-and-web-serial/m-p/48852/highlight/true#M17524

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

meskobalazs — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 10:01:35 GMT

The only issue I have are the Privacy Protection and DoH sections. Having a single "choice" and an advanced settings button makes no sense to me. Those should be similar to the ones at Tracking protection and HTTPS-Only Mode.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Mutzu — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 11:24:16 GMT

Thanks, @AshleyT. For me, I think, it would be a (visual) overview of the main settings from the setting's sections:

Startup

Open previous windows and tabs

Synchronization

Sync is active with mutzu@mutzu.com

Privacy & Security

Strict security level enabled
Cookie banners are blocked
14 websites restricted by security level today
CryptoVPN enabled

Statistics

Last five days:
A bar chart showing the amount of time I've used Firefox in the last five days. (Only when Firefox had the focus.)

Appearance

Automatic color theme
English

Search

DuckDuckGo as default search engine

Plugins

7 plugins active

Maybe the dashboard should be customizable, since other people have different priorities than I do.

In general, the settings in Firefox feel a bit "buried" to me because there are so many (which is good). Either I have to click on a section header (and scroll down to see them), or I use the search dialog.

A dashboard would make the usability a little more immediate.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

tilwiti — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 13:57:19 GMT

I like it. Could you consider adding the userChrome.css edit to a "Danger^W Advanced Settings" tab? Include a warning about potential interface issues, along with an easy way to reset if needed. Maybe even include a section within that for experimental features from the UI team and a userChrome.css catalog (basically a mirror of what's already out there). It could be a great way to involve CSS enthusiasts.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Agentvirtuel — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:17:34 GMT

Hello

Firefox advanced customization and configuration options
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-advanced-customization-and-configuration

In addition, to edit your css file, this other possibility
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/in-feedback-we-trust/m-p/66228/highlight/true#M23461

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ThePillenwerfer — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:53:22 GMT

It certainly looks like an improvement.

I used Firefox 3.5 years ago and then various Chrome derivatives until a few months ago. I have to say that I've struggled to find the relevant settings and often have to resort to the Search box. The old central 'Preferences' box seemed much easier to navigate — this isn't rose-tinted spectacles as I was using Thunderbird 45 until recently and that retained it.

I'd suggest a tree view, like e-mail folders. So under General would be sub-catagories for Startup, Import, Tabs, Language &c.

A simple link to about:config in the left-hand panel would be too much to hope for I suppose.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

tilwiti — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:40:23 GMT

just a smol question to the devs—does "legacy" mean it’s going to be removed?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ThePillenwerfer — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:51:21 GMT

Hopefully not as it's what makes Firefox better than the competition. Removing it would make a nonsense of the claim to be "Highly configurable" as there's not much you can do with the standard 'user' settings, and about:config only adds so much.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:02:59 GMT

Thank you for the response. I hope our updated list of categories will make it easier to find the setting you're looking for. And yes, we intentionally moved the search to the top left to make it more visible. Thank you for the suggestion about the tree view. I'll raise that as something to look at

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:06:22 GMT

Thank you for the extra detail. I'll share this to be looked at

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

myspace — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:58:35 GMT

Thanks for sharing the early concepts! Looks much better.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Oddbodkin — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 16:58:33 GMT

I don't know what's changed but tabs started crashing a couple of days ago.

Infrequently at first but now far more often.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:08:12 GMT

I'd like to move the preference about privacy in about:config to the settings. For example,privacy.resistFingerprinting and privacy.firstparty.isolate. At the same time, it is necessary to inform the user what the effect of enabling these two features will be, so that the user can choose carefully

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:15:21 GMT

When I type text in the search box, it appears in the address bar, which I have to change in about:config, which is very inconvenient, and I hope to take this opportunity to move the switch of this function to the settings. In addition, Firefox allows different search engines for privacy windows, but this also needs to be changed in about:config, which is very inconvenient, and I hope to enable this feature in the settings in the future

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:18:35 GMT

I also have a small suggestion that when I enable encrypted dns, Firefox will show "enabled" if it is successfully enabled. I'd like to see a slight change to show "ECS enabled" by the way. ECS is the Encrypted Client Hello

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:19:09 GMT

Thank you for taking the time to review and share your feedback!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:20:04 GMT

Thank you for taking the time to review and walk through the interactions!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Fri, 30 Aug 2024 19:21:25 GMT

Thank you for the feedback. We'll add this as something to be looked at. The work shown here is focused on updates to the design of our existing settings.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

moz_samri — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 03:25:03 GMT

agreed. compact mode is highly desired;

Adding the ability-to-fold-lines-within columnar displays, as an option, would be highly desired.
at present, one must play with column widths manually, if at all possible.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

moz_samri — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 03:45:19 GMT

I agree that one needs more flexibility to show icons on a tool bar...

here is what I do to overcome the limitation:

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

moz_samri — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 04:06:46 GMT

It would also be useful, and more coherent, to have the "Customize Toolbar..." operation to be available as an icon. At present, there are about 3 (Tabsbar, HamburgMenu, Between the Help & searchBar...) places where one can R-Click to invoke it, which is certainly not friendly to new/novices... and difficult to remember for even seasoned people.

In addition, at least in my working example above, one cannot invoke the "customize..." menu.

In some cases it is EXTREMELY diffifult to "know" where one can access the "customize" via R-Click... Adding a colored region, would be a lot of code, confusing, and more code to maintain; Putting the functionality into an optional ICON, in the default interface, allows each user to reconfigure its presence/absence...

I also prefer the "+" icon for NewTab, to be on the LHS of the TabBar.

Another config option is the location of the SearchBar... in the above example, I place it, in the Unused space, to the right of the "File, Edit..." Toolbar... that allows keeping apples and oranges, wrt search and current URL, logically distinct, yet visible.

Also note in my example, the toolbar UNDER the TabsToolbar, has a larger-inter-icon spacing;
Compare that to the myCustomized, repurposed Bookmarks toolbar, where the icons are more closely spaced, yet still legible !

The Scissors clipping icon is purposefully in the center of myCustomized bookmarksToolbar;
that allows doing clipping, when you have multiple independent windoz open..

The ability to do an external call to the BaseOS's.TakeScreenshot functionality, incorporated into a FFox Icon, would allow one to capture the entire current window... useful for making BaseOS.CurrWndow (or subWindows), of the window running FFox, llike the above example.
This abstracts the difference of the differing BaseOS design, and makes it very useful when one needs to do work across, VM's or differing computers.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:46:20 GMT

I'd like to see the Protection Information panel in the Privacy section of the settings. Firefox's current protection information panel doesn't feel good enough. My suggestion is to show not only the total number of trackers blocked in a week, but also the number of times each tracker blocked, showing which trackers are blocked the most. And in the form of a graph to show the daily trend of the tracker, this protection information panel should be designed to be cool and advanced

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:58:26 GMT

This protection information panel should be at the front of the privacy and security area, and you will be able to see it as soon as you enter this area. I also want the protection information panel to show which extensions I've installed and run, what permissions I've given to which extensions, which sites I've given which permissions, and so on, and which sites I've set as exceptions in Enhanced Tracking Protection

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

azurite18 — Sat, 31 Aug 2024 16:48:29 GMT

Seems redundant, as most of that information is shown on the Privacy & Security list of options. Also not sure it's realistic to say any user of the internet is "secure", not unless Firefox is providing a true (legally binding) guarantee and provides a definition of "secure" which probably isn't going to include a guarantee that FF is unhackable is it?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Erwan — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 15:45:05 GMT

The idea is there, and there's a lot of promise!

On the other hand:
- I spend a lot of time setting up my blank browser so that I'm well protected.
- I set my mother's browser
- I set my grandmother's browser

The basic problem: we're not protected BY DEFAULT

People with low vigilance are always being fooled.

Why by default?
- sponsored content is enabled
- third-party cookies are accepted
- tracking is allowed
- allow advertising metrics

I'm annoyed, and it undermines all your fine promises.

Solution:
on installation, a menu should open and propose these different security choices and their real consequences.
For example, the message would say: “Do you want to enable sponsored content? (this content helps Mozilla's financial autonomy and helps fund the company)”.

For my part, everyone around me, both personal and professional, uses Firefox (often at my urging), but fewer than 1/4 set it up correctly. This is also the case for the absolutely necessary extensions.

So Firefox must protect people BY DEFAULT, even from itself if need be.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Gnomasz — Mon, 02 Sep 2024 16:40:52 GMT

I wanted to suggesting something softer, although about the same configs: I'd like to see an explanation as to why some defaults are the way they are. When someone mentions e.g. Betterfox on Reddit, a reply often appears that "there are reasons the defaults are the way they are", but I've never found actual reasoning.

So, to stay on the Privacy and Security settings, I'd like to see the reasoning why:

"do not track" is off,
"automatically refuse cookies" is off

either in the settings or on the first page when clicking "learn more".

Aside from Privacy & Security, I'm glad to see Extensions and Themes in the settings. I often look for them there.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 15:35:31 GMT

Hey there, thanks for this suggestion. I'm one of the designers working on settings and helping out answering some questions here 🙂

We're very interested in showing Protections info in settings too, and will be exploring how to integrate that in the UI. I love the idea of the graph, thanks!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

gdfsgdfg — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 15:47:41 GMT

Please add a setting for disabling disk cache about:config setting keeps resetting "browser.cache.disk.enable" every single firefox update for me lately.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

fuseteam — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 17:03:07 GMT

Hi i've been packaging firefox for ubuntu touch and with vertical tabs and a few minor tweaks it is surprisingly usable so far

would it be possible to make the settings page responsive so that it can adapt it's layout to fit on mobile screens as well?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 17:19:19 GMT

I hope you can design a sketch soon. You can also see in the chart whether encrypted DNS is enabled, as well as the mode in which Enhanced Tracking Protection is enabled

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 17:44:28 GMT

Hey there,

We've been designing with responsiveness in mind and focusing on layout. Happy to hear it will benefit Ubuntu Touch users.

Here's an early mobile responsive layout exploration of hiding the nav behind a hamburger menu, which could then slide in on click.

Please feel free to give any ideas or thoughts that could improve the responsive experience. I really appreciate it.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Mutzu — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 19:01:27 GMT

I was doing some research for another project and found these graphs. Maybe it is some inspiration for the graphs in the dark theme. (But I think they feel a little bit too harsh.)

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 19:41:28 GMT

Thanks for sharing some data viz inspirations for dark theme.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 19:44:53 GMT

Thank you for this suggestion. We've been thinking through how to be able to better explain why things are on by default and how things may change if you turn certain settings on, which is something we're not doing a good job at either and some changes could result in a broken experience.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 19:50:35 GMT

Thank you for the suggestions. I replied to a reply to your post below about better consequence explanations for defaults or even setting changes. I really like the example you've given on using messaging and providing different security choices with proper consequence explanations.

We want to make sure users actually understand the options they have been given, and are confident with the options they've chosen and empowered to make changes to better suit their experience.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 21:18:43 GMT

Thank you for taking the time to share UI density suggestions and concerns. I've raised this to the team.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Tue, 03 Sep 2024 21:21:56 GMT

Thanks so much! The writing you see on these designs are definitely not final. We appreciate the feedback 🙂

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:17:43 GMT

Your picture is kind of like the stock market

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:19:56 GMT

If you can, Do Not Track and Require Sites Not to Sell Shared Data are turned on by default. These two functions are enabled by default and will not affect the normal browsing experience of users

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Mutzu — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:31:33 GMT

You are right, I liked the colors somehow.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 09:19:14 GMT

I want this kind of website-style charts. I feel that the charts on this website have a very advanced feel

https://denovers.com/blog/top-dashboard-design-examples-and-practices/

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

fuseteam — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 10:35:55 GMT

awesome! that looks great~

I assume the focus here is more for the settings page?
Another part would for it to work with touchscreens, tho that isn't quite related to design—

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

fuseteam — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 10:39:00 GMT

secure doesn't mean "unhackable" it means protected, this is a standard feature of any internet connected software

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:13:53 GMT

Thanks! Yes, the responsiveness would be focused on settings for now to stay within the scope of the project.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

fuseteam — Fri, 06 Sep 2024 15:20:50 GMT

yes totally makes sense, looking forward to it 😄

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

kywarai — Sat, 07 Sep 2024 16:00:02 GMT

Please move these options from about:config to the settings page:

browser.search.openintab (opening a new tab for search bar)
browser.urlbar.openintab (opening a new tab for url bar)
browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab
browser.tabs.closeTabByDblclick (close a tab by double click)
browser.tabs.loadBookmarksInTabs (opening a new tab for a bookmark)

these features are really useful

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

00FF00 — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:57:49 GMT

two unrelated things on this topic:

1. not even really on this topic specifically, probably, but i hope you dont plan to remove the settings for custom colors for websites and custom fonts. i use firefox for many reasons, but this is the one that initially got me to start using firefox as my main browser. (also dont you dare switch to chromiums terrible themes)

2. lol okay now thats outta the way the main reason i was going to comment here was because i happened across this thread and this comment reminded me of an issue i noticed with the vertical tabs experiment, which is if you have vertical tabs turned on and then right click to customize your toolbar there is no intuitive way to get out of that screen, because the sidebar disappears on the customize toolbar tab. sorta off topic i suppose but it is what it is lol. thanks for all the hard work you do making firefox great!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:48:06 GMT

Thanks for sharing the feedback on which options you'd like to see on by default and the idea to bring these settings forward into onboarding.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:48:45 GMT

Thank you for sharing which settings you find useful from about:config!

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:51:53 GMT

Thanks for your response. I'll pass along your feedback on the vertical tabs.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

wutongtaiwan — Tue, 10 Sep 2024 10:27:30 GMT

Is there a sketch of the protection information panel at the moment? I'd like to see what the protection information panel looks like soon

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Jack95 — Thu, 12 Sep 2024 18:53:09 GMT

I’ve never really taken the time to take a deep deep dive into the settings. Do they include the toolbar? If not, i think they should. For example, i want to keep the home button in the toolbar. I also want to have the headbar or omnibar, i mean the strip with the menu button, back button, forward button, show tabs button, reading mode button, reload page button and the actions related to the adress field on the bottom of my iphone screen. That’s because i use the screen reader voiceover. And if i put my finger on the bottom right angle, it lands on the menu button, and from there, it’s just a few leftswipes to the adress field

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

milenhh — Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:45:12 GMT

Hello Dears,
Can be reduce space gap between firefox bookmarks?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ThePillenwerfer — Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:02:32 GMT

Yes, with Custom CSS; there's plenty of information on-line about enabling it. The code you need is:—

.toolbar-menupopup :is(menu, menuitem) {padding: 0 !important;}

Whilst Firefox's claim to be "Highly customisable" is true, it certainly isn't easy.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ffffff — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 07:54:01 GMT

Looks very pretty. I'm glad to hear the preferences page is getting some love. It does the job, but isn't the easiest to navigate, nor does it inspire all that much confidence. I really like the cute fox ❤️

Some thoughts:

- Splitting pages into more manageable ones with clear limits seems like a good idea. I dig the breadcrumbs
- Hopefully you folks can do something about the old sticky header which covers up content as you scroll
- Any information on whether these design guidelines will also be applied to the extensions page?

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:52:57 GMT

Thank you for the feedback and noticing the finer details in the changes we've made. The first pass is specifically on about:preferences, but we're considering other areas.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

BrianectMozilla — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:44:15 GMT

I agree with the second part, the first one I don't mind. Having it not explain what kind of advanced settings you're in when there's more than 1 option could confuse some people(It confused me I think when I realized that it said that it's the Advanced settings and I wondered which part, I figured out after looking further.).

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Jarnjezuze — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 19:00:40 GMT

It looks good. I came here to say that Firefox needs more consistency in design and features across platforms (Android, iOS, Desktop).

Firefox on Windows and Linux most of the times feel like the best browser available but on mobile I do not get that same feel, convenience, commodity. c:

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

onequest — Fri, 20 Sep 2024 23:17:01 GMT

This is awesome to see, and always appreciate the design in the open approach! Do you by chance have design considerations for mobile devices? I would love to see those as that's my primary computing device and I don't use Firefox on a traditional computer.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Erwan62 — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 08:12:04 GMT

I'm not sure if I like this new version.
- Personally, I like compact formats, and this is obviously the opposite. I hope this menu will be compatible with people like me who still use “compact” density.
- If I see the images above correctly, to add an exception to cookies for example, instead of currently clicking on “settings/privacy/manage exceptions”, I should now do “settings/privacy/advanced settings/manage exceptions”.

It's not a big difference, I agree, but they're still complementary manipulations.

I understand that some people (maybe most) need simplicity and won't touch their options after installation.
But for people like me who spend a lot of time monitoring and setting parameters, I always prefer to have easy and direct access to options and not have 3 layers of parameters to go through before accessing the option I'm looking for.

Personally, I would have liked to see separate settings in the left-hand menu, with
- privacy” = cookies, security options, DNS, Https, advertising
- assistance” (or another name) = implementation, passwords, history and soon AI
- Firefox” = release notes, data collection, surveys, sponsors.

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Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Agentvirtuel — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:09:34 GMT

Hello

Take a look at this parenthesis https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/fully-support-web-usb-and-web-serial/m-p/48852/highlight/true#M17524 in this subject

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Jarnjezuze — Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:54:48 GMT

Firefox has been getting so good! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
This settings design and the sidebar design are both so amazing and pleasing. The recent approach to Firefox has been spectacular. I have never gotten interested on any browser's nightly version before but now with Firefox I want to get involved more and more. The only Criticism for Firefox I have would be that it's design and features is not as consistent across different platforms (iOS for example is not that good) (while on Android and Linux the feel of Firefox is terrific and makes it the best browser)
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:18:49 GMT

Hey there, thanks! This project is also happening on mobile. In the future we can share some of the iOS and Android designs as well, albeit they will continue to rely heavily on each operating system's respective UI languages.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:22:05 GMT

Thanks for your feedback! As for the new design, we're keeping an eye on the utilization of space and keeping in mind different viewports. I appreciate the note on compact density preferences.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

jules_s — Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:23:15 GMT

Thanks very much! 🙂 also appreciate any criticisms. We are focused on making sure the future settings experience translates appropriately across mobile.

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

ljj — Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:42:37 GMT

STOP !!! with the new (in version 131.0) tab hover view or give us a way to turn it OFF as I hate it and its annoying. Please give back control of this 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬👿👿👿👿

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Agentvirtuel — Tue, 01 Oct 2024 17:52:15 GMT

Hello

Is it ? about Show an image preview when you hover on a tab, take a look at https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/here-s-what-we-re-working-on-in-firefox/m-p/72398/highlight/true#M27662, take a look at about the preference about:config browser.tabs.hoverPreview.enabled

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

AshleyT — Wed, 02 Oct 2024 17:47:15 GMT

Hi all!

Thank you so much for sharing your feedback on the design proposal for Firefox Settings. We're always looking for ways to improve Firefox and I appreciate all the ideas that have been shared in this thread. It's so helpful to see the browser through your eyes.

One of the big takeaways from this thread related to the design has been to really focus on finding the right balance of customization versus simplicity. I look forward to continuing with that challenge. From here, we are continuing to refine the designs based on internal and external feedback.

Once again, thank you for taking the time to share your input. I look forward to providing additional updates as we continue work on this project.

Ashley

Re: Firefox Settings Design: Share Your Input!

Jon — Wed, 02 Oct 2024 19:05:40 GMT

Thanks all for participating in such an insightful discussion!

We are closing out this thread but want to encourage you to continue sharing your feedback and ideas about the settings design (and more ways to improve the Firefox experience) in new posts.

This is an ongoing series here in the Mozilla Connect community, and we have another discussion scheduled to kick off next week. If you have a request for a topic, send me a message and I'll reach out to the product and engineering teams to hopefully coordinate.

We look forward to continuing to collaborate with you all 💪