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    <title>topic Supporting standard ways of exiting apps in Discussions</title>
    <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/supporting-standard-ways-of-exiting-apps/m-p/4950#M2171</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I replied incompletely to my forum post &lt;A href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375193" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Feedback to Firefox team &amp;amp; WARNING to its users&lt;/A&gt;, and, though that solved my&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;immediate&lt;/U&gt; problem, I'd like to augment it with this message, so as to describe a further problem....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Generally&lt;/STRONG&gt;, if Firefox supports only a chosen (maybe I should say "proprietary"?) Firefox way of doing anything (like exiting via the menu only) on a major Firefox platform, like Windows -- and not &lt;U&gt;all typical&lt;/U&gt; if not standard &lt;U&gt;ways&lt;/U&gt; Windows users are accustomed to doing it -- there will &lt;U&gt;surely&lt;/U&gt; be many unhappy Firefox users, and it's this kind of thing that can result in &lt;U&gt;Windows users considering Firefox unfriendly or finicky&lt;/U&gt;, resulting in their preference for &amp;amp; use of another browser, like Edge or Chrome or Brave or whatever. In my opinion (trying to be helpful to the Firefox team &amp;amp; to Mozilla generally), &lt;U&gt;the Firefox development team should be sensitive to the ways users are accustomed to working&lt;/U&gt; and take them into consideration, if it wants Firefox's user base to expand beyond its current boundaries.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;In this case&lt;/STRONG&gt;, it is my firm belief that the Firefox team should immediately change the Settings page in the first (General) section, to assert that users should use &lt;U&gt;Firefox standards&lt;/U&gt;, which might be a &lt;U&gt;subset&lt;/U&gt; of the standards to which they might be accustomed, to avoid issues like the one I had.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Secondly&lt;/STRONG&gt;, I believe the Firefox team should work to cover those other standards that represent typical manners of use (ways of using Web-based applications) that &lt;U&gt;the user base expects&lt;/U&gt; to be covered.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My intent is not to preach, but &lt;U&gt;to emphasize the impact upon the size of the Firefox user base&lt;/U&gt; that things like this cause. I want the Firefox user base to expand to its fullest, and hindrances need to be removed to make this happen.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for reading. I know that developers may not appreciate all this, and I'll likely be hammered for it, but &lt;U&gt;product managers &amp;amp; marketers will understand &amp;amp; appreciate it&lt;/U&gt;, I think, and this is being written by one who has worked from kernel system programming through consulting regarding technical as well as large-scale business excellence &amp;amp; success.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:42:55 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>UnConnoisseur</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-04-26T14:42:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Supporting standard ways of exiting apps</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/supporting-standard-ways-of-exiting-apps/m-p/4950#M2171</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I replied incompletely to my forum post &lt;A href="https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1375193" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;Feedback to Firefox team &amp;amp; WARNING to its users&lt;/A&gt;, and, though that solved my&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;immediate&lt;/U&gt; problem, I'd like to augment it with this message, so as to describe a further problem....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Generally&lt;/STRONG&gt;, if Firefox supports only a chosen (maybe I should say "proprietary"?) Firefox way of doing anything (like exiting via the menu only) on a major Firefox platform, like Windows -- and not &lt;U&gt;all typical&lt;/U&gt; if not standard &lt;U&gt;ways&lt;/U&gt; Windows users are accustomed to doing it -- there will &lt;U&gt;surely&lt;/U&gt; be many unhappy Firefox users, and it's this kind of thing that can result in &lt;U&gt;Windows users considering Firefox unfriendly or finicky&lt;/U&gt;, resulting in their preference for &amp;amp; use of another browser, like Edge or Chrome or Brave or whatever. In my opinion (trying to be helpful to the Firefox team &amp;amp; to Mozilla generally), &lt;U&gt;the Firefox development team should be sensitive to the ways users are accustomed to working&lt;/U&gt; and take them into consideration, if it wants Firefox's user base to expand beyond its current boundaries.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;In this case&lt;/STRONG&gt;, it is my firm belief that the Firefox team should immediately change the Settings page in the first (General) section, to assert that users should use &lt;U&gt;Firefox standards&lt;/U&gt;, which might be a &lt;U&gt;subset&lt;/U&gt; of the standards to which they might be accustomed, to avoid issues like the one I had.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Secondly&lt;/STRONG&gt;, I believe the Firefox team should work to cover those other standards that represent typical manners of use (ways of using Web-based applications) that &lt;U&gt;the user base expects&lt;/U&gt; to be covered.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My intent is not to preach, but &lt;U&gt;to emphasize the impact upon the size of the Firefox user base&lt;/U&gt; that things like this cause. I want the Firefox user base to expand to its fullest, and hindrances need to be removed to make this happen.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you for reading. I know that developers may not appreciate all this, and I'll likely be hammered for it, but &lt;U&gt;product managers &amp;amp; marketers will understand &amp;amp; appreciate it&lt;/U&gt;, I think, and this is being written by one who has worked from kernel system programming through consulting regarding technical as well as large-scale business excellence &amp;amp; success.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 14:42:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>UnConnoisseur</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-04-26T14:42:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Supporting standard ways of exiting apps</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/supporting-standard-ways-of-exiting-apps/m-p/4956#M2174</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;When a user closes a window, what factors should Firefox use to determine whether the user is finished with that window (and would be annoyed to see it restored) versus not finished with that window (and expects it to be restored)?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 15:53:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/supporting-standard-ways-of-exiting-apps/m-p/4956#M2174</guid>
      <dc:creator>jscher2000</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-04-26T15:53:03Z</dc:date>
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