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What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

nemmartins — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 11:48:03 GMT

I've been using Thunderbird for years, but the latest update is terrible! The message list is almost unreadable, and there's no way to change the font, or at least increase the reading size of the list!. Space between lines is non existing, Font size is small, no zoom option... overall, your worst update ever! After this update, and if nothing changes very quickly, I definitely will opt for other email client than yours.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

misfyt — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 12:03:41 GMT

I fully agree with @nemmartins , the message list is virtually unreadable. Please revert the UI to the previous version or give us the option to do that with a few mouse clicks on individual machines. If this isn't repaired in the next version, I'll quit using TB.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

macmuraca — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 15:04:25 GMT

New workspace and layout is orrible and chaotic. Somewhere there is the option to adjust the fonts but it was much better before. It is full of bugs in email compositions. Don't paste the signature!!!!

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

VictorK — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 18:57:49 GMT

And::

Latest version curser disappears off the screen edge scrollbar too easily. Thank you.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

mthomas — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 14:25:44 GMT

Just upgraded to v 15.3.1 and the home screen is now a huge font/display size I cannot alter. I estimate the font size is some 14. Awful. Looked into downgrading but that seems fraught with gotchas around the profile settings. Please fix this asap.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

mthomas — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 14:29:45 GMT

Correction on version text : Upgraded to "v115.3.1"

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

SKWebDev — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 16:55:12 GMT

I found it (115.3.1 running on Mint Cinnamon):

Click the burger button which for me has moved to the top right, next to the window minimise, maximise buttons. You should see Density and Font Size controls.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

mthomas — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:34:38 GMT

Hi SKWebDev,

Thank you so much for your responding to this.

Your good help fixed that and my home display is back to normal and workable. I am so pleased. Thank you so much!!!

I'm on linux mint 21.1 cinnamon.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

SKWebDev — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 17:51:21 GMT

You're welcome.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

gregoireg — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:55:19 GMT

Thunderbird 115 is HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. Revert back. How is this possible that such a release is done???

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

DEWhite — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 19:59:51 GMT

I totally agree. How could you change the display font with no way for the user to adjust it!

Someone really messed up on this one!

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

DEWhite — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 20:04:55 GMT

This below seems to do it. But how many users have been inconvenienced?

"Click the burger button which for me has moved to the top right, next to the window minimise, maximise buttons. You should see Density and Font Size controls."

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

vanvan — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 12:20:14 GMT

I agree, even with the change in density / font size. I believe the contrasts/color/fonts have been changed (To be more "smooth" ?) and after only half an hour, I have an headache trying to focus on the screen, which I have never had before !

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

iiklaver — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 12:37:49 GMT

Indeed, 115.3.1 is even more terrible. The appearance has become disgusting, the top panel is full of empty space and cannot be reconfigured. Are the developers drunk or is Thunderbird nearing its death? why do such silly "experiments"? Extremely sad!

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

bobthefarmer — Sat, 07 Oct 2023 01:54:57 GMT

The font/layout of this version hurt my eyes. Eye strain and headaches are not user friendly. We need a way to change to other fonts. This version is the worst I have ever used.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

SKWebDev — Sat, 07 Oct 2023 02:02:34 GMT

Maybe check what theme its using. For me its using "System theme - auto" and its using my OS's default font.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Martin666 — Sun, 08 Oct 2023 02:25:35 GMT

I'm usingThunderbird 115.3.1 on a Windows 10 computer. Go to "View -> Font Size -> Increase Font Size" to resolve this. Cheers.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

halex — Sun, 08 Oct 2023 17:39:24 GMT

You are completely right. I hate it so much I can not explain it and I am using them for almost 15 years. I would lay off every designer (together with all project managers) that worked on this new update and would politely asked them before to write collectively excuse letter to every user personally.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Topazgb — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 00:44:07 GMT

I like it. My laptop has a small screen and the new design allows all my email addies to be seen on the left without scrolling.

Just wish there was more control over the theme font. I found the change in font size and density but I can't change the font.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Steve-R — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 02:17:57 GMT

@vanvan wrote:
I agree, even with the change in density / font size. I believe the contrasts/color/fonts have been changed (To be more "smooth" ?) and after only half an hour, I have an headache trying to focus on the screen, which I have never had before !

Are you using the default white background in TB ?
If so , change it to a darker theme , it helps with eye strain.

To change TB to a dark colour scheme , firstly install the Darko extension theme and then go to Settings ..... General Page , scroll down to Fonts And Colors and select the Colors button and then click on the Text Background Color and select either Black or Dark Grey for the text background and it will match the Darko theme or click on the checkbox for Use System Colors.

Having a dark colour scheme is a lot easier on the eyes.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Xerkus — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 20:51:39 GMT

Density setting affects more than just font spacing and while default density font is good the other aspects of interface become too large while compact makes font very hard to scan

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

gb — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:16:07 GMT

Through a combination of stuff I managed to get it back to almost normal. This fixed the folders and list:
View/density
View/font
Mozilla 'Light' theme

View/zoom fixed the readability of the message pane

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

nickada — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:59:45 GMT

This has been horrible for me too. When I compose a message, the text is tiny. When people reply to my messages, the text in my original message is huge!

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Blackaye — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 19:05:33 GMT

This is a nightmare. Now, the text size (email content itself) seems unchangeable. What the heck has happened?

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

kentenor — Fri, 13 Oct 2023 22:09:19 GMT

Same prob with 115.3.1 of Tb - but the fixes listed so far do not address the fact that the MESSAGE FILTERS edit screen obstinately stays LARGE FONT whatever you do - this means that the Save button at the bottom of that dialogue is not visible so you can't save anything. I am not prepared to delete and re-install - too risky - I want a fix now.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

blued — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 18:41:34 GMT

Font settings before under preferences no longer seem to work. What does work and to me is an improvement is that the font settings are now under the View menu. You can reduce, increase size to whatever you want.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Foto_One — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:12:30 GMT

This new configuration needs to revert back to the previous version. No matter what adjustments are made to font size, etc., it is not as appealing or legible as the previous version.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

LANewell2 — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:21:17 GMT

And why did they move the menus around? File, Edit, etc. is _always_ at the top placing other menu bars close to the work area. Change for the sake of change confuses long time users and makes us look at other solutions. Very, very unhappy to have to now spend time trying to get the UI back into something I can just use, without relearning where everything is.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

gb — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:35:15 GMT

Playing around with view / density, zoom, font size, I got back to almost normal (see very thin photo below):
edit: plus I used the Mozilla 'light' theme, which helped a lot as it used a different font style.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

AussieStevK — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 22:38:36 GMT

Changing the density also changes the whole layout of the page, making spaces between lines wider than they need to be. Even in the email list. The font can look better, but then the whole app takes up way too much space. This is just an ugly mess. Why change something that wasn't broken? They even moved the navigation menus around, which is even more of a pain! Are they TRYING to lose customers?

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

akunvip — Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:28:53 GMT

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

GnomeSane — Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:00:38 GMT

Yeah, this is not a fix for me. Fundamentally the font, and in particular the bold I find very uncomfortable to parse 😕

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

GnomeSane — Sat, 11 Nov 2023 03:02:00 GMT

I've been using dark since before supernova, but I still find the bold (unread) white text glaring...

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

artdo — Sat, 11 Nov 2023 04:18:52 GMT

the new version is terrible indeed. how can one fook up that badly with a perfectly fine design? it is beyond my imagination.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

modemjunkie — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:47:09 GMT

The View > Font size option stopped working for me last night. I am trapped in tiny text on the menu bars and the file lists. I was on the previous version, so I updated to 115.50. That didn't change anything for me. Still can't adjust the font sizes.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

modemjunkie — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 15:57:16 GMT

Those settings no longer work for me. I am stuck in the tiny default size. V. 115.50 Windows 11

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

modemjunkie — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 18:58:47 GMT

Thanks for pointing that out. I thought it was only happening on my desktop. I still can't get the list fonts to change from tiny and the Filters screen is humongous. v. 115.50 (BTW: The about page is so big it won't fit on one monitor and I have to drag it around to close it. )

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Agentvirtuel — Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:10:16 GMT

Hello

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/thunderbird-115-4-1-what-have-mozilla-done/m-p/45275/highlight/true#M16339
Take a look New Density Options/choices in 115.4.3 are terrible
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/new-density-options-choices-in-115-4-3-are-terrible/m-p/45131/highlight/true#M16296

Try userChrome.css

/* ---How to restore pre-supernova display density-- */ :root { --list-item-min-height: 20px !important; --list-item-buttons-size: 20px !important; } /* ---Message list spacing-- */ tr[is="thread-row"] { height: 5px !important; } /* ---Height of the inbox list view-- */ #threadPane { min-height: 110px !important; /* default 200px */ }

Copy/paste the code (for example) into Notepad
Save
Type: All files
userChrome.css

Create a chrome folder
Move userChrome.css to your chrome folder

Go to your profile folder https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-where-thunderbird-stores-user-data#w_how-do-i-find-my-profile Open Folder

Move your chrome folder to your profile folder

Go to Configuration Editor https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/config-editor

Alternatively in the Settings tab, enter about:config in the search box
The result is, Configuration Editor...

Click on Configuration Editor...
The Advanced Preferences tab will open.

Search for a preference name toolkit.legacyUserProfileCustomizations.stylesheets
To edit a boolean preference (true/false value), click on the Toggle button to set its value to true

Stop Thunderbird start Thunderbird

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:27:59 GMT

re :, the top panel is full of empty space and cannot be reconfigured.

The 'top panel' is called the 'Unified Toolbar' and it replaces the old 'Mail Toolbar', but it does more than the old Mail Toolbar.

Help Article for Unified Toolbar : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unified-toolbar

right click on 'Unified Toolbar' and elect 'Customise'.

I put the 'Get Messages', 'Write' and 'Tags' back onto the 'Unified Toolbar'. Then I able to get rid of the new Folder Pane Header -clickon 3 dot icon and select 'Hide Folder Pane Header'.

I also enabled the 'Menu Bar' and discovered it was auto set below the Unified Toolbar which is just not tolerable, so I used a 'userChrome.css' file to quickly solve the problem.

See info on Supernova 115* - How to move the 'Menu Bar' above the 'Unified toolbar':

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1422908

I also discovered I could not raise the splitter to reduce the number of emails displayed in list to a suitable level. Then I discovered this was due to the developers setting a minimum size which was too much, so I also inserted a useful bit of code intomu 'userChrome.css' file and all is fixed.

See info on Supernova 115* - How to increase the minimum height of 'Thread Pane', so you can raise the 'Message Pane' higher.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1423733

Or maybe you find the new 'Message Header area is also using too much space then there is some code on this:

See if this info helps: Supernova 115* How to reduce the spacing in the Message Header area.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1429674

The one thing I love about Thunderbird is if you don't like something then it's possible to alter stuff.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 11:55:29 GMT

re :View/zoom fixed the readability of the message pane

The readibility of the Message Pane - aka content of emails. Yes Zoom only effects the 'Message Pane, but if you are zooming frequently then it's much easier to set up what you do want to see via the Settings made available for this kind of adjustment.

Personally, I like this to be a little larger maybe 16px than used in the Folder Pane or Thread Pane where I don't mind 12px but 13px is just that bit better. I also want to stop the use of really small font size in emails by setting a minimum.

The font specifically for the 'Message Pane' is controlled via:

Settings > General
scroll to 'Language & Appearance'
click on 'Advanced'
Select 'Fonts for:' and choose 'Latin'
Set all Font Size a bit larger than you are using for the Folder Pane & Thread Pane eg: 16px
Set the 'minimum size' a bit smaller, so it stops people from forcing tiny font eg: 12px
Then select 'Font For:' and choose 'Other Writing Systems' (bottom of list)
set identical font sizes as the 'Latin'.
If you want more control over fonts then uncheck 'Allow messages to use other fonts'
Click on OK

The above sets up settings for both western and unicode, so do make sure you set up for both 'Latin' and 'Other Writing Systems' and indeed any other language format you use eg: Cyrillic

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:03:41 GMT

Sounds like you have a minimum font size messing up the Message Pane. Check your settings.

If you are using the default 12px for Font Size in Folder Pane and Thread Pane and want Message Pane the same then do the following, but whatever font size you set for 'proportional' and 'monospaced' - whether 12px or a larger 16px keep it the same and then set the minimum font size smaller.

The font specifically for the 'Message Pane' is controlled via:

Settings > General
scroll to 'Language & Appearance'
click on 'Advanced'
Select 'Fonts for:' and choose 'Latin'
Set all Font Size as 12px
Set the 'minimum size' a bit smaller, eg: 10px
Then select 'Font For:' and choose 'Other Writing Systems' (bottom of list)
set identical font sizes as the 'Latin'.
If you want more control over fonts then uncheck 'Allow messages to use other fonts'
Click on OK

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:19:23 GMT

re: estimate font size

Menu app icon (3 lines) > Font Size - what does it say for ?px

That info tells you the font size used in Folder Pane, Thread Pane, Menus etc.

Why can't you alter it ?

What is preventing you from clicking on :

Menu app icon (3 lines) > Font Size > click on the - button to reduce the font size ?

Please check the following is set up to use the default setting as it can influence all settings and now there is more control of font size via a more user friendly method. Previously, this setting was used to control font in general, but it is no longer required and can cause all sorts of weirdness if not set to default.

Settings > General
scroll to bottom
click on 'Config Editor'
in search type : pixels
look for: layout.css.devPixelsPerPx
By default, it should say a negative number: -1.0
If you see anything else click on the 'Reset' curved arrow located on the right'

Confirm this set to default -1.0

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:30:53 GMT

Thunderbird Supernova is the first design which actually offers the user alot of user friendly control over font size (and spacing - aka Density) both via the 'Menu Bar' toolbar (View > Font Size) which you would need to enable BUT also via the 'Menu app icon' (3 lines) which actually states the Font Size being used and you use the + and - icons to increase/decrease font size.

This 'Font Size' effects everything - Folder PAne, Thread Pane, Message Pane, Menu's etc.

The Message Pane which displays email content also has additional controls because some people like that part to be a larger font size and many people like to control the minimum font size. So to set different controls for that area use:

The font specifically for the 'Message Pane' is controlled via:

Settings > General
scroll to 'Language & Appearance'
click on 'Advanced'
Select 'Fonts for:' and choose 'Latin'
Set all Font Size a bit larger than you are using for the Folder Pane & Thread Pane eg: 16px
Set the 'minimum size' a bit smaller, so it stops people from forcing tiny font eg: 12px
Then select 'Font For:' and choose 'Other Writing Systems' (bottom of list)
set identical font sizes as the 'Latin'.
If you want more control over fonts then uncheck 'Allow messages to use other fonts'
Click on OK

The above sets up settings for both western and unicode, so do make sure you set up for both 'Latin' and 'Other Writing Systems' and indeed any other language format you use eg: Cyrillic

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Mon, 27 Nov 2023 12:44:32 GMT

and there's no way to change the font

I keep finding people saying things like that and I have no idea why.

The Supernova 115* has more user friendly methods to control the Font Size than ever before.

On 'Menu Bar' toobar - View > Font Size > increase font size/decrease font size

On 'Unified Toolbar' use the 3 line 'Menu app' icon - click on it to see 'Font size' - you do not even need to locate it - it's on the opening menu list - where it tells you the currently used size in pixels and offers + and - icons to increase/decrease the font size.

The 'View' > 'Density' controls the space in between items and there are 3 options.

The Message Pane itself if using same default size can alos be influenced by the same Font Size controls, BUT people tend to put html code into emails in an attempt to control the design. In Thunderbird this can also be very much controlled and often people like this area a little larger in font size than used elsewhere.

Some people just use the Zoom - let's be very clear on this - Zoom only effects the Message Pane - the contents of an opened email - Zoom does not effect other areas like 'Folder Pane'.

However, if you end up using the Zoom a lot then it means you should set up something more suitable to prevent all that unnecessary zooming.

Settings > General
scroll to 'Language & Appearance'
click on 'Advanced'
Select 'Fonts for:' and choose 'Latin'
Set all Font Size a bit larger than you are using for the Folder Pane & Thread Pane eg: 16px
Set the 'minimum size' a bit smaller, so it stops people from forcing tiny font eg: 12px
Then select 'Font For:' and choose 'Other Writing Systems' (bottom of list)
set identical font sizes as the 'Latin'.
If you want more control over fonts then uncheck 'Allow messages to use other fonts'
Click on OK

The above sets up settings for both western and unicode, so do make sure you set up for both 'Latin' and 'Other Writing Systems' and indeed any other language format you use eg: Cyrillic

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

StrahdIvarius — Fri, 01 Dec 2023 15:47:40 GMT

2 computers here with the same Thunderbird version (115.5.1), and on one everything works fine when managing font size, and on the other one it is a mess.

The main difference is for the one having issues the screen size is 3440x1440, when the other one is only 1920x1080.

Could it be related?

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

blued — Sun, 03 Dec 2023 12:43:54 GMT

The compose text is too tiny regardless of font or text size you choose. I have to choose HUGE for it to look like medium. But when I send it, the recipient receives it as huge. TB 115.5.1 has become virtually unusable for me at this stage. Will try to find backup of a pre-100 version and set it to never, ever update.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Sun, 03 Dec 2023 13:44:51 GMT

Yes. Screen size 3440 x 1440. Is this one of those ultra wide screen monitors? Some MAC computers run those pixel sizes and often are using something they call duel retina or scale of eg: 125% basically a type of zoom, so it renders a sharper image. Thunderbird uses pixels for font size not points. So on each screen a 'pixel' will be a certain size. It means a 12px on one screen can look larger than on the other, due to individual pixel size.

You may also discover the font choice in 'Language & Appearance' settings can effect the general UI font size controls. It generally is not an issue, but in a particular MAC in another Support forum I've been trying to find out why inceasing Font Size does not effect eg: Folder Pane and it looks like there is a setting in Languages & Appearance which seems to block the font size.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Sun, 03 Dec 2023 14:00:18 GMT

In 'Settings > Composition'

You should select: Variable Font and Size Medium so that it always renders as whatever the recipient uses as 'medium'.

But when it comes to you composing messages, the 'Medium' is determined by whatever you have set up as medium in 'Settings > General > Language & Appearance > Advanced'.

The 'Proportional - Sans Serif - Size: eg: 16 = medium for you.

But you must set up 'Fonts for' 'Latin' and ''Other Writing Systems' because 'Latin deal with western encoding and 'Other Writing Systems' deals with unicode encoding'.

The advise I have previously offered basically tells people what they need to check. However, people seems to mess up all sorts of things and it all goes out of ballance. Many times people set minimum sizes which are so large they override all their normal settings.

I cannot offer advise on what to do specifically in your case until you state exactly what settings you are using. In Help > Troubleshooting Information, scroll down to 'Important Modified Preferences' and look for lines that start with 'font.' Copy all those 'font' lines and paste it into a comment, then I'll know what you are using.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

blued — Sun, 03 Dec 2023 16:51:32 GMT

Am using the latest portable version of TB. Odd thing is that it works perfectly fine on another computer (windows 10, 2560x1440p display). On main PC (4k display) and dual booting Win 10 and 11, text, view is large in Win 11 but tiny on Win 10, esp when composing.

Am thinking nothing wrong with TB itself, just odd scaling behavior on high res displays.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Sagitarius — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 04:08:21 GMT

i would like to share with the dev a small bug in thunderbird about shortcuts in mail window.

so, every time i read my mail it is impossible to use the zoom shortcuts CTRL-/+ the directly.

i must first to play with the size font icone and after that i can use the shortcuts to zoom in the the mail.

It's really painfull because thunderbird has a bad managment font size in raw text: regardless of the settings i can use, the raw text font size are always small.

this bug is still there even after an update version or a OS changing (manjaro-ubuntu)

Version: thunderbird 115.7.0

OS: endeavoursos (archlinux)

regards

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

blued — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 08:59:46 GMT

Almost afraid to use TB in business correspondence. I reply to a mail and the first part of the sentence is the normal font I would use, but mid-sentence it changes to a tiny font that looks silly and unprofessional. And I only know that when viewing it in the sent folder. No warning whatsoever that this is the way it will look. How about an option to see how the composition will actually look before mail is sent?

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 12:28:42 GMT

This is because the scaling effects the pixel size itself, so a size 12 can look much smaller on a high res display. When using a high res display please check this via the Menu app icon (3 lines) Font Size = 12px ?

If the computer is forcing smaller size pixels then this setting may be too small and if it gets down to something like 7px then it may be difficult to increase that size - therefore do this -

Settings > General
scroll to bottom and click on 'Config Editor'
in search type: uifont
look for : mail.uifontsize
click on pencil icon to get edit mode
remove the low number and type in 12
click on tick icon to save

This should get a better setting in Font Size and make it operational again. It has worked for those people have reported a much smaller size eg: 7px and they cannot increase it by clicking on the small + icon.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 12:53:01 GMT

Not entirely sure what occured but here is some info:

When you compose, text can get altered if you use 'paste' because when you 'copy' text you are also copying formatting, so it's best to use 'Edit' > 'Paste with formatting' so only the text is pasted and the formatting follows whatever you have selected in Thunderbird.

I also notice you mention 'Reply'. This means any formatting the sender included in their email to you is now also included in the 'Write' reply email which you now want to type. This can influence the formatting of whatever you type depending upon the html css in email.

There are ways to get around this - when you click on reply to open new Write and it includes the email you are replying to - use Ctrl+A to highlight everything and then select 'Format' > 'Remove all text styles', so that you can apply eg: Variable width' to everything.

To check what you send before sending there are a couple of options:

Save as a draft, select 'Drafts' folder and select email to see content.
use 'File' > 'Send Later' which puts email already prepared for sending in the 'Outbox' which is located in the 'Local Folders' account. Select email to read. If it looks wrong - right clickon email and select 'Edit as new message'. This means you do not lose all the content and can use the Ctrl+A to remove formatting and reset. You can then delete the 'wrong' email in Outbox'.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Agentvirtuel — Tue, 06 Aug 2024 13:28:04 GMT

Hello

For information purposes

Please, right-click in the screenshot, open screenshot in new tab, then click in the screenshot, thank you

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Stevan2020 — Thu, 22 Aug 2024 20:50:30 GMT

I am having the same issues. And after setting all of the font options to size 40 and minimum font also to 40, the font is NOT as tiny, but is still very small. I would guess that even at size 40, the font looks like size 8 or 9, which is still too small

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

Toad-Hall — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 11:05:52 GMT

When you say font still looks small - are you talking about the Folder Pane, Message List etc OR are you only talking about reading messages in Message Pane and creating message?

What size is shown when you click on Menu app icon (3 lines) and look at 'Font Size' ? I'm thinking that maybe you are using a computer screen resolution which uses 4K.

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

wsmwk — Thu, 03 Oct 2024 04:52:29 GMT

FWIW, this is documented at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-115-supernova-faq#w_why-are-the-fonts-still-too-large-or-too-small-after-i-changed-the-density-and-font-size

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

PCThoughts — Sat, 05 Oct 2024 05:12:45 GMT

NO, THAT DOES NOT WORK! AND WHEN YOU SHARE THAT, THEY CANNOT EVEN SEE IT! TRYING AGAIN TO EXPLAIN, BUT.....

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

PCThoughts — Sat, 05 Oct 2024 05:14:04 GMT

THE FONT SIZE WILL NOT CHANGE TO ANYTHING READABLE!

Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

wsmwk — Sat, 05 Oct 2024 07:28:30 GMT

Hi all.

Skimming several of the posts here these are best answered and resolved in support at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/thunderbird

Please remember the sidebar when posting a new discussion item here states

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Re: What happened with text font size in Thunderbird 115.3.0?

wsmwk — Sat, 05 Oct 2024 07:38:39 GMT

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-115-supernova-faq#w_why-are-the-fonts-still-too-large-or-too-small-after-i-changed-the-density-and-font-size describes one issue which may be affecting some of you.

If you are still having trouble in version 128, please ask for support at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/new/thunderbird

Closing this thread for now.