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    <title>topic Supernova, Thunderbird 115, just installed the Beta... in Discussions</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Since Supernova is effectively a new product, I thought I'd share a few points which are important to me.&amp;nbsp; The new UI does look familiar, yet tidier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just installed the Beta&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" style="width: 217px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3610i7FF7140E348B8695/image-dimensions/217x69/is-moderation-mode/true?v=v2" width="217" height="69" role="button" title="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" alt="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And notice all Owl support (Microsoft Office connectivity) is missing, which is also my excuse for using S/MIME, which we're not allowed to “not use” at work.&amp;nbsp; I assume this will be addressed in future releases, as it's quite essential to those of us who use Thunderbird both at home and work.&amp;nbsp; Thunderbird needs to support an MS Office centric environment for email, multiple calendars; me, coworkers, holiday..., address book (GAL), personal... with &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;security&lt;/FONT&gt; features.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is also the issue of memory gluttony.&amp;nbsp; I suspect this is a feature of Firefox, as it shares this issue.&amp;nbsp; Start it up, let it sit for a day or week, and suddenly it's using 8 GB - 16 GB of memory, i.e., nearly all the machine memory resources in a machine equipped with lots of memory for development.&amp;nbsp; I can “cure” this behavior by regularly shutting down Firefox and Thunderbird, then restarting.&amp;nbsp; Sounds simple, but isn't when this requires reestablishing multiple 2-factor authentication logins by phone and URL.&amp;nbsp; This can waste 15 minutes or more for a restart just to reclaim memory consumed by these two Mozilla products.&amp;nbsp; Don't do this, and eventually the machine becomes non-responsive because it is swapping huge amounts of gluttonized (probably used for caching, but won't rule out leaks) memory to disk.&amp;nbsp; As a general rule, I'd say if memory hasn't been touched for a few hours, especially if it is used for caching, it should be released.&amp;nbsp; This will improve long term performance and allow me to stay logged in to all those 2-factor authentication areas, many needed for work.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The UI looks great, glad to hear Thunderbird is getting a makeover, inside and out.&amp;nbsp; Memory usage is an issue which has been brought up for more than a decade.&amp;nbsp; Poor memory performance gets addressed, then quickly returns.&amp;nbsp; Why not start a bunch of VM's to contain Thunderbird and Firefox, let them sit for days logged into various services; Google Mail, Facebook, Youtube, Microsoft SharePoint, then investigate to figure out what is causing all the memory demand?&amp;nbsp; Then try to address the memory issue.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>CraigA</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-07T16:50:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Supernova, Thunderbird 115, just installed the Beta...</title>
      <link>https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/supernova-thunderbird-115-just-installed-the-beta/m-p/33286#M12317</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Since Supernova is effectively a new product, I thought I'd share a few points which are important to me.&amp;nbsp; The new UI does look familiar, yet tidier.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I just installed the Beta&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" style="width: 217px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/3610i7FF7140E348B8695/image-dimensions/217x69/is-moderation-mode/true?v=v2" width="217" height="69" role="button" title="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" alt="CraigA_0-1686154403135.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And notice all Owl support (Microsoft Office connectivity) is missing, which is also my excuse for using S/MIME, which we're not allowed to “not use” at work.&amp;nbsp; I assume this will be addressed in future releases, as it's quite essential to those of us who use Thunderbird both at home and work.&amp;nbsp; Thunderbird needs to support an MS Office centric environment for email, multiple calendars; me, coworkers, holiday..., address book (GAL), personal... with &lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;security&lt;/FONT&gt; features.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is also the issue of memory gluttony.&amp;nbsp; I suspect this is a feature of Firefox, as it shares this issue.&amp;nbsp; Start it up, let it sit for a day or week, and suddenly it's using 8 GB - 16 GB of memory, i.e., nearly all the machine memory resources in a machine equipped with lots of memory for development.&amp;nbsp; I can “cure” this behavior by regularly shutting down Firefox and Thunderbird, then restarting.&amp;nbsp; Sounds simple, but isn't when this requires reestablishing multiple 2-factor authentication logins by phone and URL.&amp;nbsp; This can waste 15 minutes or more for a restart just to reclaim memory consumed by these two Mozilla products.&amp;nbsp; Don't do this, and eventually the machine becomes non-responsive because it is swapping huge amounts of gluttonized (probably used for caching, but won't rule out leaks) memory to disk.&amp;nbsp; As a general rule, I'd say if memory hasn't been touched for a few hours, especially if it is used for caching, it should be released.&amp;nbsp; This will improve long term performance and allow me to stay logged in to all those 2-factor authentication areas, many needed for work.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The UI looks great, glad to hear Thunderbird is getting a makeover, inside and out.&amp;nbsp; Memory usage is an issue which has been brought up for more than a decade.&amp;nbsp; Poor memory performance gets addressed, then quickly returns.&amp;nbsp; Why not start a bunch of VM's to contain Thunderbird and Firefox, let them sit for days logged into various services; Google Mail, Facebook, Youtube, Microsoft SharePoint, then investigate to figure out what is causing all the memory demand?&amp;nbsp; Then try to address the memory issue.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CraigA</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-07T16:50:04Z</dc:date>
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